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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: peter chao
Guys, |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Joe D.
but out of the guys I did see play - |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Josh Adams
I also did not get to see Wiliams play. However, the best hitter I ever say was Frank Thomas in the 1990s. That guy was lights out. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: peter chao
Josh, |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Jason L
but it's one of the usual suspects, I'm sure |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Josh Adams
Peter, |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Denny
Even Ty Cobb said that Jackson was the best Hitter ever! |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: fkw
Babe Ruth by far. .342 lifetime average. Broke the career HR record 500+ times. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Jeremy
My grandfather saw Williams play & told me he was the best hitter he ever saw. He ran into Williams at a steak house in Florida and paid a waiter at the restaurant $50 to go get a baseball for him at the closest store. Well, the waiter went & got a ball for him. Teddy Ballgame inscribed the ball to myself & Grandpa (Ted mispelled my name, which my grandma "fixed"). To this day, it is the center of my collection. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Denny
Frank, |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: peter chao
Jeremy, |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Jerry
I lean towards Hornsby. He had a 5 year stretch where he averaged batting over 400. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Cobby33
Even after losing those years and the injuries he suffered in Korea, IMO he's the best ever. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Joe Jones
Cobb was the man! Look at his numbers. I think if he would have been swinging for the fences, he probably would have hit many homers too. That just wasnt his style, or the style of the game at that time. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Jeremy
I probably should have qualified my grandfather's statement by saying that he saw Ruth(early thirties), Gehrig, Dimaggio, Foxx, Hornsby, Greenberg, etc. Let alone Mantle, Mays, & Aaron. There's nothing like firsthand knowledge. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: PC
Ty Cobb would have picked Harry Heilmann and Joe Jackson, in addition to himself. I beleive he said as much. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Jeff Prillaman
In 1915 Joe Jackson hit 5 HR's in 461 AB's |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Dan Lundrigan
Arguably one of the greatest hitters of all time and a world class outdoorsman as well.Lost 5 years of baseball to answer his country`s call to fight in WW2 and Korea as a Marine fighter pilot!To me Ted Williams the MAN is even greater than Ted Williams the ballplayer! |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: peter chao
Guys, |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
PETER |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Ken McMillan
gee, I should be on the list. I have a career 515 batting average and one of my hits is off Lee Smith. That's with 4 years with the Cubs. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Brett
My uncle saw Babe Ruths first professional home run he it in Toronto ! I think he also told me he saw Ty Cobb play. He had an amazing memory for his age at the time when he was 94. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Aaron Cowan
Ruth hit more home runs than entire teams...thats pretty impressive. Also, sometimes being the best hitter doesn't involve getting a hit. A walk can never be an out. That's one thing I've never understood about Bonds: why walk him 80% of the time when 60-70% of the time he will make an out. OBP is the true measure of an effective batter. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: fkw
The knock on O'Doul is the total ABs. He chose to play most of his career in the PCL (a league almost as good as the ML at the time). He was a San Francisco man (born lived died), he chose to play on the West coast and probably made more money playing right here at home. Why not? |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: howard
O'Doul also had his best years in the Baker Bowl which was one of the greatest hitters park ever in any league. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Aaron Cowan
Yes, I forgot about O'Doul's contribution to Japanese baseball which was huge. This would put him over the top and in the category of a pioneer. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Ted pretty much lost 5 full seasons to his military service. If you extrapolate his numbers (averaging out what he did prior to and after the time periods in question) he'd possibly have broken Ruths HR record. He'd definitely have about 3500 hits and he'd probably be the all time RBI leader (even today) with somewhere near 2400+. Who knows, those were 5 prime seasons, he could have done more than the extrapolated numbers. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: fkw
Ruth lost 1800 ABs in his first 5 years pitching too |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
You know Frank, that's a very good point. If you extrapolate using the lower figures (for that time period) it would still put him over 800 lifetime HRs. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Mark Burke
why is it that Tony Gwynn is the only modern hitter in the top 20? And, if I am not mistaken, there is nobody in the top 20 lifetime hitters who had their peak year after 1940 except for Williams and Gwynn. Gwynn arguably could have been a lifetime .400 hitter if he played in Cobb's era. And, maybe Ruth could have hit 100 home runs in a season if he had the same trainer as Barry. It's fun to debate but that's all it will ever be. You just can't compare eras in sports where records are not measured in milliseconds or centimeters. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: peter chao
fkw, |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Peter Thomas
I did get to see Williams play between 1946 ( first game with my dad) and 1960. I was at his last game and was about 60 feet from the landing spot of his last home run. I was an MIT freshman and walked to each game that September hoping to see what I did see. He certainly was the best hitter I ever saw, but I think Ruth was even better. Without the wars he would have had about 700 home runs and maybe stuck around an extra year to pass Ruth. Ruth if he had been a possition player from the beginning would have have 800 plus. Williams won 7 batting titles and by current rules would have had 8 ( not enought at bats, but plenty of plate appearences) If he had not missed those 5 years it is hard to think he would not have won at least 3 more. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Just for the record, it was George Sisler who held the single season hit record that Ichiro broke...not Lefty O'Doul. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: sagard
Tony Gwynn was a one dimensional hitter who likely isn't even in the top ten of his era. He doesn't even belong in this posting. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Dylan
its funny how many dont like to consider current players in "best ever" conversations. as much as i love vintage baseball the game today is played on another level. In every pro sport as time progresses the game is played on a higher and higher level. But since certain statistics are so incredible (if taken in the context of todays game) in the early days of baseball some like to just look at that and say most the greatest players played at the turn of the century through the 1920's. but we know thats not true. I think its really only fair to compare players to other players of their era, as the game and the way its played has changed so much. as for Ted, he is one of, if not the greatest hitter to play baseball. However if Albert Pujols stays healthy I believe at the end of his career he may be looked at as the greatest hitter of all time. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Darren
Babe Ruth by a MILE. What else would the Bambino have to do besides hitting .342 and 714 HR. Power and Frequency. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: JK
Peter, |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: peter chao
JK, |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Brett
With so many crappy pitchers today, Ruth could hit 1000 HR's and Cobb could have had 5000 hits... but most pitchers today would be affraid to pitch to them, so they would probably give them nothing to hit and walk them alot. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
PETER |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: barrysloate
Ted- interesting analogy putting Babe Ruth up there with Thomas Edison...sort of comparing the light bulb to the home run. But I agree Ruth was one of the most significant American personalities of his era, and it went way beyond hitting a baseball, which he could do better than anyone who ever played the game. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: peter chao
Barry, Ted, Guys, |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: barrysloate
I never saw either of them play except on film, and there is no question in my mind that Williams was one of the greatest hitters in the history of the game...but the edge goes to Ruth. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: fkw
Williams hit .406 |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
In 1941, indeed Ted Williams batted .406.....he went into that final day doubleheader batting .3996. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: peter chao
Ted, Guys |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: howard
A couple of things to keep in mind about why Williams might have played on the last day of the '41 season: |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: barrysloate
Bonds's four seasons from 2001-04 match up statistically to any player's in the history of the game, including Ruth, Williams, Hornsby, or anybody. |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: Bob
Rod Carew. Can't believe no one has mentioned him. How soon we forget..... |
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O/T Ted Williams Was the Best Hitter
Posted By: peter chao
Barry, Guys, |
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