How do you feel about sending in re-grades?

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Posted By: rand

To clarify my topic, i love to find undergraded cards in holders, send them in for grading and see if i get the "bump". when i get the better grade, its a solid victory, just like winning an auction at a great price.



how do you feel if a card comes back after a submission and you feel its still undergraded or gets the bump. are you satisfied with the extra costs to get the deserving grade or miffed that it should have been done right the first time.



for me, i am just happy to get the bump and its worth the extra bit of work/expense. i am more aggravated about over graded cards in the first place.

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Posted By: David M

Just to clarify, do you send them in still in the original holder hoping for a "bump", or do you crack them?

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Posted By: rand

great question. i hardly ever crack the card. i am an avid SGC collector/submitter. i believe the graders at SGC are very honest and do not take it personally if a card is sent back for a review. they will send back the card in the original holder if it is not bumped and place a baggy over it and circle the problem area for me to look at.

once in a blue moon i will crack the card and send in raw, only twice in 5 years has it come back higher.

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Posted By: David R

Rand,

I would have thought you would have a better chance cracking them out. That seems to be the conventional wisdom on this board. What percentage of cards that you have resubmitted to SGC in the original holders have come back with higher grades? And have the bumps only been one grade?

David R

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Posted By: rand

i have respect for their pop report. at least my contribution to it. i'm also to skiddish about cracking the card and it gets damaged somewhere in the process. (i send in original holder) i buy the card for the given grade and am satisfied with that. so sending in for a regrade is about gut feeling, and owning many cards to compare any given grade. my success rate is pretty high, and i do not always agree BUT they do take the time to point out the card's flaws. what more could i ask. the cards i send in for regrades are strictly for my registry sets.



i do not know how PSA works or if they really even care about the individual customer (not huge dealer submitter). all i know from experience, is SGC will look at a regrade, take the time to get it right, and educate me as to why it did not get a bump. if it does get the bump (usually no more than 1/2 - 1 grade) i am thrilled and very satisfied for my registry set.

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Posted By: dan mckee

Rand, give up grading and become a true collector, we would love to have you on our side. Dan

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Posted By: Doug

I've done it a few times on some higher dollar cards with fairly good results (I had a VG '52 Topps Mantle bumped to a VG-EX most recently), but unless there's a substantial benefit from it I usually don't do it.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

But I've never felt the need to resubmit to SGC. PSA, however, I've had to send cards back both as cracked out cards and as reviews. I've seen cards take a 2 full grade jump in PSA on raw resubmittals and be refused entirely the second time around by PSA on raw resubmittals. I recently sent in 13 for review and got 2 half-grade bumps, coincidentally on the most expensive cards. The post-its with explanations attached to the balance of the cards at least made sense, although I could go on Ebay and pull dozens of cards with higher grades and worse characteristics.

As far as the question at the top: You gotta do what you gotta do. They should get it right the first time but sometimes they don't. Whadayagonnado?

Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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Posted By: rand

yo Dan, i love ya (mainly because you have not threatened to kill me at a show for $10 & even much more importantly you are/were a fellow Beavis & Butthead fan)but you statement :

Rand, give up grading and become a true collector, we would love to have you on our side. Dan

makes me laugh because you have a plethora of graded cards and know 100% you can't sell'em without the plastic for full value... how's that taste

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Posted By: David Poses

i bought a card last night on ebay- the pic in the auction shows the SGC label- i am assuming that the card was once slabbed and cracked. i want to send it to sgc- will they simply reslab it? i respect the population report- they should really get scans of every card they grade. this probably happens a lot and every population report is faulty due to cracking/resubmitting, etc. anyway- what would happen if i sent in the label from the original slab?

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Posted By: rand

they would regrade the card and adjust the pop report. or just give them a call and ask.