Ticket Stub - Rain Check Questions...

[Baseball Rarities]

I know that there are many different designs for baseball tickets, but I am specifically looking at the 1915 World Series tickets for the games that were played in Philadelphia.

What are the different parts of this ticket called? I assume that the top piece with the actual seating information is the proper "ticket stub."

Is the middle piece referred to as a "rain check" or is it also a ticket stub?

Here are images of the separated top portion and a middle portion along along with "stub" that still has the two pieces attached.

What are the correct names for each?

[MooseDog]

IMO I would consider them all "stubs" even though the middle one is obviously incomplete.

[Scott Garner]

Hi Kevin,
It's been a while. How are you?
The top ticket stub is what is referred to as a "patron stub". It has the seat number, row number, etc.

The middle ticket stub is called an "audit stub" or "usher's stub".
This is the portion of the ticket that the ticket taker would keep and later count in order to track paid attendance.
Usually this is the larger part of the ticket and is sometimes less desirable to true ticket collectors.
For this reason, the ticket stubs that have seat numbers can sometimes be more valuable to the collector, especially if given a choice due to availability.
Earlier tickets like the one that you pictured are scarce and supply is limited.

That being said, sometimes the ticket taker that was inexperienced would hand the wrong portion of the ticket back to the patron, or fan.
It wasn't common, but it did occur.

As a collector, the bottom ticket would be the most desirable, condition notwithstanding.
More of the ticket, with more of the info makes it more interesting to my eye.
Other collectors that love PSA slabs with grades may see it differently, FWIW.

At the end of the day, they are all stubs to the same game.
Sorry for the long-winded explanation, but I hope this helps.

[scooter729]

Thanks Scott - I've wondered the same question in the past, and appreciate your detailed answer!

[Baseball Rarities]

Scott - Thanks for the explanation. Hope that all is well with you.

I have assumed that the 1915 "two-part" stub that I pictured above originally consisted of an additional third part as you can see the perforations at the bottom of the "stub." Is that correct?

I have pictured images off full stubs from the 1912 World Series at the Polo Grounds, 1914 World Series at Shibe Park and 1955 Opening Day at Cincinnati for reference.

What is the proper term for the third piece at the bottom?

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

Scott - Thanks for the explanation. Hope that all is well with you.

I have assumed that the 1915 "two-part" stub that I pictured above originally consisted of an additional third part as you can see the perforations at the bottom of the "stub." Is that correct?

I have pictured images off full stubs from the 1912 Polo Grounds World Series and 1955 Cincinnati Opening Day for reference.

What is the proper term for the third piece at the bottom?

Kevin,
Yes, that is correct with the 1915 ticket.
In the case of the 3-part 1915 ticket, the top one or ticket with two two sections would be considered a patron's ticket stub because seat numbers are present.
If a ticket example had the middle section only or both the middle section plus the bottom section, it would be considered to be an usher's stub or audit stub.

For simplicity, the ticket stub portion that has the seat numbers, etc. is the patron's stub.

BTW, more recent examples with two sections are a bit easier to identify, but some ticket stock can complicate this because I have seen examples of baseball tickets (as in your Cincinnati Reds full ticket) that have seat numbers at both ends.