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Old 01-14-2022, 08:14 PM
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Default Anyone know anything - 1964 Ed Mathews blue line

A friend of mine picked this up and we're perplexed about it.
There's a blue line running half way up the right side.
I've found nothing about it in any variation lists. There is a similar one on ebay with a stupid price tag. Interesting that PSA didn't identify the line.

Anyone have input?
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Old 01-14-2022, 08:19 PM
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It's definitely been talked about around here before, perhaps somewhere in the 'Show...me...your print variations!' thread???
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Old 01-14-2022, 08:32 PM
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It’s been in the recurring defects thread at some point (good luck finding a particular post lol), it’s known but not seen as a true variation. It’s a minority of cards, that’s for sure
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Cool card, I will have to add it to my Eddie want list.
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It's definitely been talked about around here before, perhaps somewhere in the 'Show...me...your print variations!' thread???
https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...=187722&page=3
Posts #107 and #147.
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We once discussed creating an index for all the variants listed in that thread, but gave up pretty quickly
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Old 01-15-2022, 09:37 AM
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Not surprisingly the Mathews was on the right edge of the sheet and on one of the Slits in the bottom right corner, it was probably the one in the bottom right corner that had the blue bar too close to it before the printers realized it and corrected it.
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It is listed on Richard Dingman's variation listing.

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Old 01-15-2022, 01:41 PM
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Not surprisingly the Mathews was on the right edge of the sheet and on one of the Slits in the bottom right corner, it was probably the one in the bottom right corner that had the blue bar too close to it before the printers realized it and corrected it.
This is where the hobby boundaries start to make no sense to me. I agree entirely with this theory, it seems to clearly be what happened. This is an intentional change creating a variation, but this card is almost certainly always going to be bucketed into the recurring print defect group. A lot of these cards are more likely variations, just ones most don’t care about and the $$$ companies don’t recognize. Sometimes it’s clearly a recurring defect, sometimes it’s clearly a variation, and a lot of the time we don’t really know.
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Agreed in most cases we will likely never know. The 55 Purkey you mentioned recently in the Variations thread is a another good example. There always seems to be either a very visible blue dot or a less visible greenish dot. Did they attempt to make the blue dot defect less noticeable ? Who knows?

In the 63 Bombers Best Card did someone at some point try to make the bat handle in Mantle's crotch look less obvious ?

Trying to limit the definition of a true variation to an intentional change in the card only solves things if you can always tell when an intentional change was made....unless you limit it to situations where there is no doubt the change was intentional, like the 59 trade/option cards

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We once discussed creating an index for all the variants listed in that thread, but gave up pretty quickly
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