Ask Your TPG Questions Here, A Repository...

[JollyElm]

So many of us have specific questions regarding what third party graders (TPG) do or do not do, etc., so it's time to establish a 'repository' (if you will) to compile answers to such questions. The purpose of this thread will be to allow collectors (over time) to have a stockpile of information readily available at their fingertips.

There are a boatload of net54 members who regularly have cards graded and are very knowledgable with regards to many (or all) of the aspects involved in the grading process, so I ask that you help your fellow members out when you can.


***Simple Rules***
1. Ask specific questions that (hopefully) have specific answers.
2. Don't get involved in debates over which TPG is 'better' than other ones. No need for that here.
3. Share your knowledge!! Even if you want to post general thoughts about questions that haven't been asked yet, but you know are pertinent, please do so.
4. No masks required.


So start asking your questions!!


I'll kick it off...

1. Does SGC grade 'wrong back' cards? And if so, do they give the card a number grade, or is just marked as 'Authentic'?

2. Does PSA grade 'wrong back' cards?

3. How does PSA's reholdering service work with regards to a cracked slab? If I submit a card in a cracked slab, does the fee include them examining the card to ensure it wasn't damaged when the slab became broken/cracked, and then reholdering it? Or is there more involved (assuming the card was NOT damaged)?

[swarmee]

1989 Fleer - [Base] #130.1 - Tom Brookens (Mike Heath Back) [PSA 8.5 NM‑MT+]
Courtesy of COMC.com

AFAIK, the only wrong backs PSA will grade are those that are officially checklisted.

[whiteymet]

I don't know if this question meets your criteria but what I would like to ask PSA is why when a card from one set is added to the checklist for a players Master registry set, ALL cards from that set are not added to ALL the player checklists for ALL the players in that set.

For example the Mantle Master set registry checklist has a 1959 Dad's Cookies card listed. While the Kaline card from the same Dad's set is NOT included on Kaline's checklist for his Master set registry.

Makes no sense to me.

[GeoPoto]

I don't have any answers, but don't want to miss the chance to show this "wrong back".

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1652009968
https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1652009972

[savedfrommyspokes]

SGC does, or at least used to, grade wrong backs...here is mine.

[Gr8Beldini]

My question: How do you assign a declared value to a card being submitted when you don't know the grade it'll be assigned? I have a high end card sitting in a Global GAI 7 holder. Should have gotten it converted years ago but didn't. Want to do it now. There is a very big difference in declared value between the card coming back a PSA 5 and it coming back a PSA 7, not to mention a very big difference in submission cost between a 5 and 7. Don't want to pay thousands of $$ for a declared 7 and have it come back a 6. How do you do this accurately?

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Gr8Beldini

My question: How do you assign a declared value to a card being submitted when you don't know the grade it'll be assigned? I have a high end card sitting in a Global GAI 7 holder. Should have gotten it converted years ago but didn't. Want to do it now. There is a very big difference in declared value between the card coming back a PSA 5 and it coming back a PSA 7, not to mention a very big difference in submission cost between a 5 and 7. Don't want to pay thousands of $$ for a declared 7 and have it come back a 6. How do you do this accurately?

Declared value is simply them asking you what you value the card at when you submit it. Think of it as being used for insurance purposes while the card is in their possession. If the card were to be lost in the mail or somehow damaged while in their hands, what $ do you need for it to make you whole? If you have figured the value "wrong" for purposes of the fee to grade it, I know PSA has no problem upcharging people, and does this on the regular. I would assume SGC does the same. But I don't think the declared value should be used to guess what you think they are going to grade your card.

[JollyElm]

John was kind enough to offer some insight on the reholdering question (in a different thread), so I copied and pasted it here...

Originally Posted by swarmee

It's up to their discretion whether or not the crack is symptomatic of the card either being damaged or swapped out. If they deem no damage or swap possibility, then they reholder with the original grade. If they believe there is a chance the card is damaged/swapped, they'll likely email you to get your permission to crack it out, regrade (with new submission costs), and likely regrade the card. I don't know whether or not the Grade Guarantee would apply to a slab they consider damaged, and whether you'd get cut a check for the difference if they come in lower.
Your best bet is to take them to an on-site grading location like the National, and discuss it with the employees before submitting.

[darkhorse9]

When will TOG stop calling them "Scrapps Tobacco" (which never existed and been proven wrong) and correctly label them H.G. Smith & Co.?
More importantly, will they correct and relabel old slabs?

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by darkhorse9

More importantly, will they correct and relabel old slabs?

If you can convince them, and pay for a reholder.