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Old 11-15-2022, 01:50 PM
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Interesting topic...

My family does not love the fact that I have an N28 Cap Anson - not a good dude as it relates to integrating the game.

Here's a tangent issue - anyone ever have an issue selling to or buying from another collector or dealer with very different political slants than your own?

(I admit... I have)
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Old 11-15-2022, 02:47 PM
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None. Vintage is history, and history is not the study of things I like or people who share my life philosophy and values. My non-sports sets include mass murders like Alexander, Caesar, and the more modern ones that offend. OJ Simpson is in my 70’s football sets. Charlie Haeger is in my 2006 Bowman box. My boxing sets include Kid McCoy who murdered his girlfriend and Billy Papke who murdered his wife. If I had the wallet to chase Old Judge’s, I would have Anson in my set. He sits in many of my modern sets. I’m sure one can find dozens of players to object too in any set.
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Old 11-15-2022, 02:59 PM
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Here's a tangent issue - anyone ever have an issue selling to or buying from another collector or dealer with very different political slants than your own?

(I admit... I have)
I cannot imagine living in a world where I refuse to deal with someone because they disagree with me. I don’t care if a person I am dealing with is a hardline conservative or a communist. I know good men and bad of every political stripe.
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I cannot imagine living in a world where I refuse to deal with someone because they disagree with me. I don’t care if a person I am dealing with is a hardline conservative or a communist. I know good men and bad of every political stripe.
I would never refuse to deal with someone based on their views alone.
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I was at a show one time when a dealer I'd often bought from used a very specific ethnic slur to describe a certain politician. I walked away in disgust and will never, ever do business with him again. Outright public racism is a line I don't cross in business dealings.

As for players I do not collect because of morals, there are a few subjects I am not interested in having in my PC. Michael Jackson fits the bill.
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I was at a show one time when a dealer I'd often bought from used a very specific ethnic slur to describe a certain politician. I walked away in disgust and will never, ever do business with him again. Outright public racism is a line I don't cross in business dealings.
I’ve had some negative dealers, but that’s a new one.
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I’ve had some negative dealers, but that’s a new one.
It was so very casual the way he said it that I just knew he was a frequent user of the term. White man of a certain age from a certain region of the country, not the most surprising thing that might be said, but still shocking to hear it said in public.
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It was so very casual the way he said it that I just knew he was a frequent user of the term. White man of a certain age from a certain region of the country, not the most surprising thing that might be said, but still shocking to hear it said in public.
Certain region of the country? There are racist individuals in your area, and in every region of the country I have visited. Boston is the absolute worst. San Diego ranks high as well.
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Certain region of the country? There are racist individuals in your area, and in every region of the country I have visited. Boston is the absolute worst. San Diego ranks high as well.
No area has an exclusive on racism; that was not my point. My comment was that a man of a certain age from a certain part of the country would have been exposed to that specific slur as the 'go-to' slur as he was growing up to a degree not found in other regions, and thus may have been more inclined to use it instead of some other derogatory term. In New York City, for example, large segments of the ethnic white immigrant and 1st generation populations would use their own slurs in their native tongues. My mother was one of them: she used the Yiddish version because it was what she was brought up hearing. The N word wasn't on her radar; I never heard of her using it until she was in the nth stage of dementia and spouting all sorts of craziness.

I have never been to Boston (not that I want to go there. I grew up a Knicks and Rangers fan in NYC: as a young boy I thought the actual name for the town was "Bostonsucks" because that is the only way I ever heard it said).

I did not encounter much racist stuff in the four years I spent in San Diego, but I was in La Jolla, a coastal college area. East county was another story. I did hear quite a few racist and antisemitic comments from some of the folks from those areas.
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Interesting topic...

My family does not love the fact that I have an N28 Cap Anson - not a good dude as it relates to integrating the game.

Here's a tangent issue - anyone ever have an issue selling to or buying from another collector or dealer with very different political slants than your own?

(I admit... I have)
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I cannot imagine living in a world where I refuse to deal with someone because they disagree with me. I don’t care if a person I am dealing with is a hardline conservative or a communist. I know good men and bad of every political stripe.

What if the wackadoo claims to have PSA 5's that "identify" as PSA 8's?

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What if the wackadoo claims to have PSA 5's that "identify" as PSA 8's?
That made me laugh way more than it should have.
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