If You Collect Scorecards or Programs, Show 'em Here!

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Keeping the Nolan Ryan theme, here's his first career start, with his first career decision.

That looks super nice, Doug...

But with those tightly cropped images, I am left wondering about the background of this program.

[bigfanNY]

My First Hockey post a 1926 Stanley Cup Final program from 1926. It was the last year a non NHL team played in the cup Finals. Babe Siebert and the Montreal Maroons won their first cup 3 games to 1. They beat the defending champion Victoria team

[Kawika]

Very cool program, Jonathan. I live in Victoria and less than a mile from the site of the Patrick Arena where the Cougars played. Following the 1926 season they became the Detroit Cougars and eventually the Detroit Red Wings. The attached snaps are of a commemorative cairn on the grounds of Oak Bay Secondary across the street from the old rink. The other is a display at the municipal hall to which I contributed some old hockey postcards. The Cougars remain the only team from British Columbia to have won the Stanley Cup. Still waiting on the Canucks.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by perezfan

That looks super nice, Doug...

But with those tightly cropped images, I am left wondering about the background of this program.

Well, it's a cardboard flat box used to ship, of course.

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

Hi Doug,
Here is an extremely rare ticket stub that is a match to your scored program to Nolan's 1st ML start game in 1966.

Every scorecard deserves a matching ticket whenever possible!

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by jethrod3

Every scorecard deserves a matching ticket whenever possible!

With any post of a Ryan game there's a good chance of Scott having a ticket...

[ramram]

Hey All.

Wow, some killer scorecards/programs on here. I don't get on Net54 much these days so I missed this post. I can throw a few out there but they come by way of scoreBOOKS instead. Hopefully they are a close enough fit.

This one meshes with Jonathan's post (above). It's one of Harry Wright's personal scorebooks from 1883 while managing the Providence team. It contains about two months of games and includes Hoss Radbourne's no-hitter. The last pic shows Wright holding one of these scorebooks (online pic, not mine).

Rob M

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[ramram]

This is a scorebook from 1867. It contains several games from the New Bedford, Massachusetts area. You'll note the name "Delano" on one of the teams. This was a great uncle of Franklin Delano Roosevelt as they were from the Fairhaven area.

Rob M

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[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by ramram

Hey All.

Wow, some killer scorecards/programs on here. I don't get on Net54 much these days so I missed this post. I can throw a few out there but they come by way of scoreBOOKS instead. Hopefully they are a close enough fit.

This one meshes with Jonathan's post (above). It's one of Harry Wright's personal scorebooks from 1883 while managing the Providence team. It contains about two months of games and includes Hoss Radbourne's no-hitter. The last pic shows Wright holding one of these scorebooks (online pic, not mine).

Rob M

Wow Rob. Beautiful. If that one ever needs a new home...

[ramram]

This is from an 1895 Scorebook for the strong minor league Hagerstown team. Three of their games are against the barnstorming Cuban Giants including the best Negro player (and HOFer) of the 1800's Frank Grant. This is one of their scored games.

Rob M

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[ledsters]

I picked up this 1943 San Diego Padres Program. Very happy to add this to my collection:

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[bigfanNY]

Kevin ..Nice Padres program the accordian style are so fragile it is nice to find them like yours in great condition. . I picked up a 1924 Yankees at Red Sox opening day program. It is the 3rd Yankees opening day I picked up in the last year I also got a Yanks at Washington 1941 which was Scooters debut. And a Yanks at Phila 1946.

[bigfanNY]

Did anyone else see / Bid on any of the scorecards in Goldin's last auction? The Highlight was an 1896 Temple Cup program that I was underbidder on. I was talking on the phone when time ran out but I only had one more bid in my budget. I did get an 1895 Baltimore and a 1914 World series program ( at Philly). 14 was a 4 game sweep for Boston so a tough program. I will post pics when they arrive..

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Kevin ..Nice Padres program the accordian style are so fragile it is nice to find them like yours in great condition. . I picked up a 1924 Yankees at Red Sox opening day program. It is the 3rd Yankees opening day I picked up in the last year I also got a Yanks at Washington 1941 which was Scooters debut. And a Yanks at Phila 1946.

That's a nice haul of opening day scorecards!

[bigfanNY]

As Promised Here are my two newest scorecards in my collection. First an 1895 Baltimore scorecard vs St Louis with McGraw Keeler Kelly Robinson and Jennings. Oh and Connor playing 1st for St.Louis. 12 pages total mostly ads but 2 player pics Scored for the 2nd game of a Double header on September 2nd 1895.
The second is a Game 1 1914 World Series program at Philadelphia. 1914 saw the First 4 game sweep in World series History. From what I was told many years ago it is a fairly scarce program. Filled with pics of the home team Athletics including starting pitcher for game 1 Chief Bender, as well as Eddie Plank Eddie Collins Frank Baker Herb Pennock. Evers and Maranville both started for Boston.

[Vintagedeputy]

Just acquired yesterday…. 1919 World Series program from game one. This program was there when the Black Sox made their dubious mark in baseball history!

[ledsters]

Those World Series programs from 1914 and 1919 are incredible.

[jethrod3]

Love those 1919 World Series Programs!

Now, to cap off a fantastic 2023 Indy 500, here's a fairly common program, but one that I've been looking for in fantastic condition for some time. Finally found one last week, complete with the insert sheet listing participants and their starting positions!! Mario Andretti was the winner in 1969, and I hope to get it autographed one day.

[roarfrom34]

Nothing historical happened on this date at Yankee Stadium (Aug. 8 1971).

However it was the very first game I saw in person. My father (who wasn't a baseball fan) knowing I was an Orioles fan, took me & my sister to it for my 10th birthday..

My program from the game is long gone, but I had searched eBay for a long time & I finally located a scored copy (now I just need to find a stub to go with it):

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by roarfrom34

Nothing historical happened on this date at Yankee Stadium (Aug. 8 1971).

However it was the very first game I saw in person. My father (who wasn't a baseball fan) knowing I was an Orioles fan, took me & my sister to it for my 10th birthday.

Sound pretty historic to me!

[roarfrom34]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Sound pretty historic to me!

Thanks Doug! I can still remember walking through the concourse & up the ramp to see the field for the first time & seeing how green the grass was.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by roarfrom34

Thanks Doug! I can still remember walking through the concourse & up the ramp to see the field for the first time & seeing how green the grass was.

That green grass against the backdrop of the blue outfield walls is my greatest memory of the stadium.

[Ulidia]

Hi all

As some of you are aware, I am a massive lurker here. In fact, I have been since prior to 2009 on the “old” chat forum. I have an interest in Yankees 1920s & 1930s but very much from a cultural more than a sporting perspective. My main interest is soccer; it is a large part of my life and my soccer memorabilia collection is pretty decent.

I thought I would share a program (or programme as we call it here in UK) from a soccer match in November 1933. It is Ambrosiana-Inter versus Juventus. Across the two teams, these players represented the backbone of the Italy side that would win the World Cup in 1934. In particular, Inter had Meazza. He would captain Italy to their 1938 World Cup victory and, globally, is probably the most iconic player pre World War Two.

I post these photos as an Inter fan and season ticket holder. Tonight we play in the Champions League here here in Instanbul (where I am posting). It is a rare to very rare program.

More generally, I wanted to make a comment about program collecting. In the UK, this was the main collecting theme for decades; at least in relation to app soccer which is the primary sport here. An equivalent to card shows, we had programme fairs which were attended by hundreds and sometimes thousands of enthusiasts through the 1970s to 1990s. I attended my first Northern Ireland National Football Programme Fair in 1986 - it was the fourth year of the fair and it still is held today, albeit with less attendees. In fact, other than during COVID, it has been run every year since 1983.



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[Swadewade51]

Here is my lone program. 1947 Ebbets Field Program with Philadelphia visiting. Recently added it for part of my Jackie display.

I believe I was able to pin-point the game on baseball reference. It was a little difficult to nail down because the last inning wasn't filled in so I couldn't use the final score. But I compared the pitchers marked and determined it to be this game.

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[robinsonmantle]

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[bigfanNY]

[QUOTE=Ulidia;2346704]Hi all

As some of you are aware, I am a massive lurker here. In fact, I have been since prior to 2009 on the “old” chat forum. I have an interest in Yankees 1920s & 1930s but very much from a cultural more than a sporting perspective. My main interest is soccer; it is a large part of my life and my soccer memorabilia collection is pretty decent.

I thought I would share a program (or programme as we call it here in UK) from a soccer match in November 1933. It is Ambrosiana-Inter versus Juventus. Across the two teams, these players represented the backbone of the Italy side that would win the World Cup in 1934. In particular, Inter had Meazza. He would captain Italy to their 1938 World Cup victory and, globally, is probably the most iconic player pre World War Two.

I post these photos as an Inter fan and season ticket holder. Tonight we play in the Champions League here here in Instanbul (where I am posting). It is a rare to very rare program.

More generally, I wanted to make a comment about program collecting. In the UK, this was the main collecting theme for decades; at least in relation to app soccer which is the primary sport here. An equivalent to card shows, we had programme fairs which were attended by hundreds and sometimes thousands of enthusiasts through the 1970s to 1990s. I attended my first Northern Ireland National Football Programme Fair in 1986 - it was the fourth year of the fair and it still is held today, albeit with less attendees. In fact, other than during COVID, it has been run every year since 1983

Well it is nice to know that collectors around the world accross many sports collect programs. If your programme fairs are anything like ours then they are filled with tables stacked with prime items and under the table and stacked behind are cardboard boxes filled with publications. Index fingers quickly flipping through the offerings looking for either something on the want list or a rare gem to be pulled unexpectedly. Thank you for sharing.
Jonathan

[jethrod3]

[QUOTE=bigfanNY;2346802]

Originally Posted by Ulidia

More generally, I wanted to make a comment about program collecting. In the UK, this was the main collecting theme for decades; at least in relation to app soccer which is the primary sport here. An equivalent to card shows, we had programme fairs which were attended by hundreds and sometimes thousands of enthusiasts through the 1970s to 1990s. I attended my first Northern Ireland National Football Programme Fair in 1986 - it was the fourth year of the fair and it still is held today, albeit with less attendees. In fact, other than during COVID, it has been run every year since 1983
Jonathan

It's interesting that you mention Program fairs because today, at a card show, I heard a rumor that there is going to be a "Ticket Convention" held at a place that is supposedly close to the same location in which our National Sports Collectors Convention will be held. Tickets have become more popular as memorabilia items over the past few years; I hope people catch on to programs and scorecards like they did with tickets. Then maybe we'll have more item-specific shows, or at least we'll have more people bringing more programs, scorecards and tickets to card shows!

[rlevy]

Chapter 1: The setup -
on May 25, 1961, 6,878 spectators attended a Thursday night matchup between Koufax and Gibson at St. Louis.

Tommy Davis, starting at third base and batting fifth, struck out his first two times at the plate. In “Stranger to the Game,” Gibson said, “I had been striking him out with sliders low and away, and I seemed to have the edge on him.”

Gibson was on a roll, having retired seven consecutive batters, when Davis led off in the seventh inning.

“I had noticed that, as I continued to pitch him outside, Davis was gradually sneaking up toward the plate,” Gibson said. “He was practically on top of the plate, and so, out of duty, I buzzed him inside with a fastball.

“I don’t know if he was setting me up, but he must have been looking for the fastball on his ribs, because he backed off a step, turned on that thing, and crushed it over the left field fence.”

In the book “Sixty Feet, Six Inches,” Gibson said, “I think he was just waiting for me to bring one inside, and I was still young and dumb enough to oblige him.”

Cardinals catcher Hal Smith told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, “The pitch Davis hit wasn’t even a strike.”

The home run into the bleacher seats in left-center broke a streak of 20 consecutive scoreless innings for Gibson and was all Koufax needed. He pitched a three-hit shutout for a 1-0 victory. It was the first time Koufax pitched a complete game against the Cardinals.

Chapter 2: The scored program below -
A year later, on June 18, 1962, Gibson and Koufax engaged in another duel before 33,477 attendees on a Monday night at Dodger Stadium.

Through eight innings, the Dodgers’ only hits were two singles by ex-Cardinal Wally Moon. Koufax limited the Cardinals to five singles.

The game was scoreless when Davis batted in the bottom of the ninth with one out and none on.

“Smart guy that I am, I remembered that Davis had beaten me the year before when I stopped pitching him outside and came in with a fastball,” Gibson said in “Stranger to the Game.”

“I thought, ‘Now, he remembers that I remember that pitch inside, and so he’s thinking that there’s no way I’m coming inside again in this situation. Just to cross him up, I’m going to do it again.’

“So, I threw the fastball inside again, and goddamn if he didn’t hit it out again to beat me. I learned right then that the dumbest thing you can do as a pitcher is try to be too smart.”

With the count 1-and-0, Davis told the Post-Dispatch, he was looking for a fastball. “Gibson had been getting me out on breaking stuff,” Davis said. “He was throwing the fastball when he got behind.”

Davis’ walkoff home run deep into the bullpen in left gave Koufax and the Dodgers another 1-0 victory. It was the first time Koufax pitched a complete game without allowing a walk.

“There are instances, as Tommy Davis taught me twice over, when a pitcher can think too much,” Gibson said in “Stranger to the Game.” “That was a hard lesson for me.”

In “Sixty Feet, Six Inches,” Gibson said, “It was a textbook case of overthinking. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Worse yet, I went against my better judgment. When I started winning big was when I stopped doing stuff like that.”

Doug, you have this one?
Rick

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[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Chapter 1: The setup -
on May 25, 1961, 6,878 spectators attended a Thursday night matchup between Koufax and Gibson at St. Louis.

Tommy Davis, starting at third base and batting fifth, struck out his first two times at the plate. In “Stranger to the Game,” Gibson said, “I had been striking him out with sliders low and away, and I seemed to have the edge on him.”

Gibson was on a roll, having retired seven consecutive batters, when Davis led off in the seventh inning.

“I had noticed that, as I continued to pitch him outside, Davis was gradually sneaking up toward the plate,” Gibson said. “He was practically on top of the plate, and so, out of duty, I buzzed him inside with a fastball.

“I don’t know if he was setting me up, but he must have been looking for the fastball on his ribs, because he backed off a step, turned on that thing, and crushed it over the left field fence.”

In the book “Sixty Feet, Six Inches,” Gibson said, “I think he was just waiting for me to bring one inside, and I was still young and dumb enough to oblige him.”

Cardinals catcher Hal Smith told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, “The pitch Davis hit wasn’t even a strike.”

The home run into the bleacher seats in left-center broke a streak of 20 consecutive scoreless innings for Gibson and was all Koufax needed. He pitched a three-hit shutout for a 1-0 victory. It was the first time Koufax pitched a complete game against the Cardinals.

Chapter 2: The scored program below -
A year later, on June 18, 1962, Gibson and Koufax engaged in another duel before 33,477 attendees on a Monday night at Dodger Stadium.

Through eight innings, the Dodgers’ only hits were two singles by ex-Cardinal Wally Moon. Koufax limited the Cardinals to five singles.

The game was scoreless when Davis batted in the bottom of the ninth with one out and none on.

“Smart guy that I am, I remembered that Davis had beaten me the year before when I stopped pitching him outside and came in with a fastball,” Gibson said in “Stranger to the Game.”

“I thought, ‘Now, he remembers that I remember that pitch inside, and so he’s thinking that there’s no way I’m coming inside again in this situation. Just to cross him up, I’m going to do it again.’

“So, I threw the fastball inside again, and goddamn if he didn’t hit it out again to beat me. I learned right then that the dumbest thing you can do as a pitcher is try to be too smart.”

With the count 1-and-0, Davis told the Post-Dispatch, he was looking for a fastball. “Gibson had been getting me out on breaking stuff,” Davis said. “He was throwing the fastball when he got behind.”

Davis’ walkoff home run deep into the bullpen in left gave Koufax and the Dodgers another 1-0 victory. It was the first time Koufax pitched a complete game without allowing a walk.

“There are instances, as Tommy Davis taught me twice over, when a pitcher can think too much,” Gibson said in “Stranger to the Game.” “That was a hard lesson for me.”

In “Sixty Feet, Six Inches,” Gibson said, “It was a textbook case of overthinking. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Worse yet, I went against my better judgment. When I started winning big was when I stopped doing stuff like that.”

Doug, you have this one?
Rick

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GREAT story and a neat scored program, Rick! Love it
Thanks for sharing.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Chapter 1: The setup -
on May 25, 1961, 6,878 spectators attended a Thursday night matchup between Koufax and Gibson at St. Louis.

...

Chapter 2: The scored program below -
A year later, on June 18, 1962, Gibson and Koufax engaged in another duel before 33,477 attendees on a Monday night at Dodger Stadium.

...

Doug, you have this one?

I agree with Scott, GREAT story and program Rick.

I'm almost embarrassed to say that I have them both.

Doug "almost, but not quite" Goodman

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I agree with Scott, GREAT story and program Rick.

I'm almost embarrassed to say that I have them both.

Doug "almost, but not quite" Goodman

I love the cover art on that 1962 program, Doug!

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by jethrod3

I love the cover art on that 1962 program, Doug!

SHOCKER, Doug!
I thought you might own them both...

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I agree with Scott, GREAT story and program Rick.

I'm almost embarrassed to say that I have them both.

Doug "almost, but not quite" Goodman

Thought you probably did have it Doug, but was hoping I could inch you closer to your goal. Unfortunately, that is my only scored program of a Koufax game.

Rick

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Thought you probably did have it Doug, but was hoping I could inch you closer to your goal. Unfortunately, that is my only scored program of a Koufax game.

Rick

I appreciate the try Rick.

I'm still looking for scored Koufax programs for 49 wins, 37 losses, 2 saves, 46 no decisions and the 1966 AS Game (don't like the ones I've seen enough to pull the trigger).

[ramram]

Scorebook from some of the earliest basketball games (1896).

Rob M

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[bigfanNY]

Rob That is a VERY nice score book. Have you identified the teams that played in the games scored?

[ramram]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Rob That is a VERY nice score book. Have you identified the teams that played in the games scored?

New Rochelle, New Britain, a YM Club, a YMCA club and HAC which I believe is Hartford Athletic Club. The New Britain club was by some considered to be the 1896 champs. One of their players, Loomis, is thought to have been the first to dribble a ball.

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[Vintagedeputy]

Recent online auction find.

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

Recent online auction find.

I love lots of the artwork on the vintage Tigers scorecards and programs. Same goes for their pennants. Whenever I have an extra Tigers pennant from the 40s, 50s or 60s to sell at a show, it goes very quickly.

[Vintagedeputy]

Another online auction find.

The 1981 World Series program had 6 autographs, which was a nice surprise.

[5-Tool Player]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

GREAT story and a neat scored program, Rick! Love it
Thanks for sharing.

+1.great background stories

Thank You for sharing

[5-Tool Player]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I agree with Scott, GREAT story and program Rick.

I'm almost embarrassed to say that I have them both.

Doug "almost, but not quite" Goodman

NEVER be embarrassed by your passion, you will be embraced by those think like you.....and then you will think/say....."its nice to be here"

[Topnotchsy]

In 1946, Bob Feller famously teamed up with Satchel Paige to go on a barnstorming tour after the season ended. (Technically it was after the regular season ended but the WS was still going on... it would be another year before the WS was televised and the rest of the country could watch it.)

Feller and Paige rented planes and toured across the country, even stopping in Versailles, KY, the home of commissioner Happy Chandler, as part of his convincing the commissioner to allow the extended tour.

Towards the end of the tour, Feller and Paige split up for a few games while they were on the West Coast. At that time, Feller paired up against a team whose leader had just won the International League (AAA) World Series with the Montreal Royals. Feller played 3 games against the Jackie Robinson All-Stars.

This program is from one of those games. The fan taped a clipping from a newspaper which captures the details, and Robinson is seen batting second. Stan Musial was in the other lineup, as this game was played after the World Series had concluded.

[jethrod3]

Fantastic program, Jeff!

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

In 1946, Bob Feller famously teamed up with Satchel Paige to go on a barnstorming tour after the season ended. (Technically it was after the regular season ended but the WS was still going on... it would be another year before the WS was televised and the rest of the country could watch it.)

Feller and Paige rented planes and toured across the country, even stopping in Versailles, KY, the home of commissioner Happy Chandler, as part of his convincing the commissioner to allow the extended tour.

Towards the end of the tour, Feller and Paige split up for a few games while they were on the West Coast. At that time, Feller paired up against a team whose leader had just won the International League (AAA) World Series with the Montreal Royals. Feller played 3 games against the Jackie Robinson All-Stars.

This program is from one of those games. The fan taped a clipping from a newspaper which captures the details, and Robinson is seen batting second. Stan Musial was in the other lineup, as this game was played after the World Series had concluded.

AWESOME! Congrats Jeff, very cool.

[seattlerainiers]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

In 1946, Bob Feller famously teamed up with Satchel Paige to go on a barnstorming tour after the season ended. (Technically it was after the regular season ended but the WS was still going on... it would be another year before the WS was televised and the rest of the country could watch it.)

Feller and Paige rented planes and toured across the country, even stopping in Versailles, KY, the home of commissioner Happy Chandler, as part of his convincing the commissioner to allow the extended tour.

Towards the end of the tour, Feller and Paige split up for a few games while they were on the West Coast. At that time, Feller paired up against a team whose leader had just won the International League (AAA) World Series with the Montreal Royals. Feller played 3 games against the Jackie Robinson All-Stars.

This program is from one of those games. The fan taped a clipping from a newspaper which captures the details, and Robinson is seen batting second. Stan Musial was in the other lineup, as this game was played after the World Series had concluded.

Most excellent, congrats. Love the Barnstorming programs!

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by seattlerainiers

Most excellent, congrats. Love the Barnstorming programs!

Those are great! I know the Pete Gray tour was 1946. Do you know when the rest are from?

[seattlerainiers]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

Those are great! I know the Pete Gray tour was 1946. Do you know when the rest are from?

I think I have it written down with the programs, just have cover scans. Let me check!

Here are a few more.

[Writehooks]

Recently traded for this Ali-Frazier 1 program and was surprised to find the signature of former VP Hubert Humphrey on the scoring page ...