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Old 03-02-2011, 09:28 AM
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Default Babe Ruth's 1927 WS Ring

I'm sure most of you are well aware of Charlie Sheen's recent 'tirade'...
To make things short, he registered a twitter account yesterday and started posting random pics including this one I thought would appeal to baseball ring and Yankees collectors ( I'm not one btw )

Charlie's wearing a 1927 Babe Ruth ring and what I suppose is a pretty expensive watch...

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Old 03-02-2011, 10:00 AM
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When he flew in all those all players to hang out with him (Zeile, E. Murray, etc.), they watched Major League and he allowed all the players to pass it around and wear the ring, it was reported. I know some of his collection was sold through Lelands over the years, I wonder how much of it he still has left and when he soon perishes, where it will end up. :-)

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"when he soon perishes..."

Dan- I was kind of thinking the same thing myself. Very sad situation.
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How can you not love this guy? If that's Ruth's actual '27 WS ring I think I've fallen in man love with Sheen. What a legend.
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Miller Huggins, a Hall of famer and teammate, had the same ring and it sold in Mastro Auctions in 2007. With the juice, the ring sold for $170,000.00.

I had not heard of Ruth's ring in the hobby. I can't imagine what that would sell for.

The watch looks like a Patek Phillippe triple date? I think they sell new for around $50,000 in solid gold.
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How can you not love this guy? If that's Ruth's actual '27 WS ring I think I've fallen in man love with Sheen. What a legend.
Drug abusing, obnoxious, wallowing in self denial, wallowing in self pity, got suckered in an autograph scam, treats women like dirt,,,
just a few reasons not to love him.
George Clooney, when he is not making movies, tries to actually save peoples lives.
Charlie Sheen, when he is not involved in his screen life, is destroying lives, including his own.
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I was thinking the same thing. I bet that watch is worth more than the one I got at Rite Aid.
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Drug abusing, obnoxious, wallowing in self denial, wallowing in self pity, got suckered in an autograph scam, treats women like dirt,,,
just a few reasons not to love him.
George Clooney, when he is not making movies, tries to actually save peoples lives.
Charlie Sheen, when he is not involved in his screen life, is destroying lives, including his own.
I'll go ahead and disagree with you on this. Fact of the matter is you have absolutely no clue how he treats people or what's in his heart. Your arbitrary and sanctimonious judgment of Sheen is both ignorant and embarassing.

I'd like to know more about this autograph scam though.
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Sheen was being paid something like $1.2 million an episode, which works out to around $20-30 million a year. So a fancy watch or a Babe Ruth ring are just meaningless trinkets that he can buy on a whim.

He is very destructive to both himself and to others. They took his kids away from him and he admits he doesn't even know where they are. Not somebody to look up to. He is very sick and delusional.
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Sheen was being paid something like $1.2 million an episode, which works out to around $20-30 million a year. So a fancy watch or a Babe Ruth ring are just meaningless trinkets that he can buy on a whim.

He is very destructive to both himself and to others. They took his kids away from him and he admits he doesn't even know where they are. Not somebody to look up to. He is very sick and delusional.
More ignorant information. All four of his kids were at his home as of this week. Only reason I know this is that they showed them in one of the interviews recently.
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If it's ignorant information it's based on what I've heard. Unfortunately, Charlie and I don't hang out together so I can only get my information from secondary sources.

But what from what I've seen, read, and heard, nothing really positive is coming out of his camp. What have you heard that makes you feel all is well with him?
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If it's ignorant information it's based on what I've heard. Unfortunately, Charlie and I don't hang out together so I can only get my information from secondary sources.

But what from what I've seen, read, and heard, nothing really positive is coming out of his camp. What have you heard that makes you feel all is well with him?
For starters, he's submitted to multiple drug tests by major news orginizations and they've all come back negative. Secondly, he's currently a single male with a lot of money. When it comes to women I would say he's free to do what he wants, with them and the cash, as long as they are willing participants.

The guy is pulling off one of the greatest PR stunts in entertainment history. His ex-wives would not be exposing their children to this guy if they felt he was a potential danger.

The guy loves baseball and memorabilia so we should cut him a little slack.
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The Daily Mail.

Long live Sheen.
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We should cut him slack because he collects baseball memorabilia? What does that mean?
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Anyone who "Loves" someone who is a freaking mess like this guy has his own issues most likely.
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Interesting note: the 1927 Yankees Babe Ruth ring came from Barry Halper who got it directly from Mrs. Ruth or another member of the Ruth family. He sold (or traded) it in the 1990s.

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Anyone who "Loves" someone who is a freaking mess like this guy has his own issues most likely.
You're obviously living in an all glass house.
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We should cut him slack because he collects baseball memorabilia? What does that mean?
Yes. It means exactly what it says.
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I think I am too ignorant to discuss the scam that Sheen was victimized by.
Let us just say it was for a lot of bucks and they saw him coming from a mile away.
And as far as his kids,,, on The Today Show this am, he openly talked about them being taken away by the police.
And I don't believe his wife has a say in the matter of him having shared custody of them. And The Today Show did report that his wife is now filing for sole custody.
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Well I guess Bill is a fan. That's fine with me.
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I think I am too ignorant to discuss the scam that Sheen was victimized by.
Let us just say it was for a lot of bucks and they saw him coming from a mile away.
And as far as his kids,,, on The Today Show this am, he openly talked about them being taken away by the police.
And I don't believe his wife has a say in the matter of him having shared custody of them. And The Today Show did report that his wife is now filing for sole custody.
You win some, you lose some. I have no clue what was or is in his collection, but if that Ruth ring is any indication, there must be some primo stuff. It's tough to believe the great Sheen was taken in by a scam but shit happens.
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The great Sheen ??
The guys who took him are still laughing about it and enjoying his money, although the main perpetrator could be in China by now. His whereabouts are unknown, though he was very "popular" for a while.
And if Halper can get taken then why can't Sheen?
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You win some, you lose some.
Charlie keeps saying that he's WINNING... but I'm not sure about it.

I think he's in for a doozy!
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Anyone that has any experience with bipolar manic depression can see through Charlie in less than a minute. I feel sorry for him. He is delusional. My brother passed away last year, the month of his 50th birthday. He had similar traits as Charlie and was diagnosed as a bipolar manic depressive person. Charlie needs in house therapy in a bad way. (that means in a hospital, every day...for quite some time). It is very sad to watch. Anyone that doesn't think so is either delusional or doesn't understand the illness, imho.
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I would never aspire to be like him, but I try not to judge. He is what he is.

He looks like a heart attack or cardiac arrest waiting to happen.

Even when he's not on "drugs", I wouldn 't be surprised if he has enough legal substances in his system (caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, energy supplements, etc.) to drop an elephant.

The body can't withstand that forever.........even with Tiger blood coursing through ones veins.

I will admit this whole circus has been a little bit entertaining to me on some sort of primitive level I'm not exactly proud of.

I do hope it ends soon though. Any media outlet that doesn't think they're just enabling him by covering this, is just as deluded as he is.
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Apparently, old Charlie didn't watch Seinfeld... Costanza proved it, too much nook makes you dum.
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This is what the media has become, one trainwreck after another to ride to the end of the tracks, dump and get on the next one. As soon as everyone gets their piece of Charlie they'll find some other "story."

If he is truly drug free and still behaves like this then I think that lends to some creedence to what Leon mentioned.

I find it neither amusing nor entertaining be it a PR stunt or anything else. Get some help or shut up.

Nice watch though, very nice!
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This is what the media has become, one trainwreck after another to ride to the end of the tracks, dump and get on the next one. As soon as everyone gets their piece of Charlie they'll find some other "story."

If he is truly drug free and still behaves like this then I think that lends to some creedence to what Leon mentioned.

I find it neither amusing nor entertaining be it a PR stunt or anything else. Get some help or shut up.

Nice watch though, very nice!
If Charlie is a bipolar manic depressive then he probably has drugs for the condition. My brother had some serious physical issues from some dirt bike wrecks and had oxycodiene and delauted (sp?) that he was addicted to. Drugs and these conditions go hand in hand though, and from my experience are anything but exclusive of each other. (they can be but most often aren't)...again, this is all from my experience and I am not diagnosing anything in a definitive manner. Charlie acts like my brother used to act.
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unfortunately he thinks he's indestructible...but he might want to look at Keith Moon and John Bonham as two people that also thought the same thing.
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The watch looks like a Patek Phillippe triple date? I think they sell new for around $50,000 in solid gold.
That watch is actually a Patek 2438 or possibly a 2498 - vintage perpetual calendars. Both are extremely rare and would bring upwards of $500K in auction.

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500K for a vintage Patek?

I rather have a Wagner card (I hear he had one of these too)
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Charlie keeps saying that he's WINNING... but I'm not sure about it.

I think he's in for a doozy!
Oh, he's winning all right. Winning in every way, every day.
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Oc`s as addicts call them are out of your system in 2 to 3 days ...so you can be tested once a week and "fool the system"...... that might very well be happening in Charlies case........ BAD Stuff....
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I rather have a Wagner card (I hear he had one of these too)
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Bill- with each of your posts you are sounding more and more like Charlie Sheen himself.

Kevin- it's hard for me to conceive that a 500K wristwatch even exists. I mean, all it does is tell time. I bet neither Bill Gates or Warren Buffett would ever spend that much for a watch. That's just insane.
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I'm sure watch collectors would think similarly about a baseball card.
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I think similarly too. I think paying 500K for a baseball card is equally nuts...except if I happen to be selling it.
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That's an interesting observation Barry.
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Charlie may very well not be on drugs...From a few experiences, the occasional sober addict will actually get to big for themselves. What happens is that the person will be too "proud" of their sobriety, and get the better than everyone else, I'm always right, type of mindset. Many times these people will become bored and do some very risky or crazy things, and they will justify it in their heads, that they can do anything they want as long as they stay sober. Often times the same mental disorder that causes this type of activity is also the same disorder that fueled their addiction to begin with. Charlie may very well be the most extreme case of this ever..

Considering there's alot of celebrities that act like this to begin with, I'm guessing Charlie's behavior has to do with BOTH, his celebrity and alleged sobriety as a result of some mental disorder. I think Leon is probably right in guessing that he's Bi-Polar.
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Rather than further respond to one particular poster in this thread I will just follow the first Mark Twain quote in my signature file.
The quote is not referring to all the posters on this thread, just one in particular.
I just know I would rather have spent one day with Mark Twain than a lifetime with Charlie Sheen.
Sheen's demons are way too much for me.
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I was thinking the exact same thing.
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I just know I would rather have spent one day with Mark Twain than a lifetime with Charlie Sheen.
Sheen's demons are way too much for me.
I agree, but for some reason, I think that one day hanging with Charlie would be one hell of a fun time though...
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Is Bill Rowett Charlie Sheen?
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I agree, but for some reason, I think that one day hanging with Charlie would be one hell of a fun time though...
Depends on what u consider fun...smoking 7 gram crack rocks, stroking your own ego, belittling women, etc.
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Depends on what u consider fun...smoking 7 gram crack rocks, stroking your own ego, belittling women, etc.
I'm not saying I'd participate all goings on. He can have all that crack to himself. But I'm pretty sure the quality, quantity and ease of the women would be pretty nice... I've got an addiction myself, can anyone guess what it is?
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Is Bill Rowett Charlie Sheen?

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Old 03-02-2011, 07:30 PM
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I'm not saying I'd participate all goings on. He can have all that crack to himself. But I'm pretty sure the quality, quantity and ease of the women would be pretty nice... I've got an addiction myself, can anyone guess what it is?
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I agree, but for some reason, I think that one day hanging with Charlie would be one hell of a fun time though...
Yeah, having your kids removed from your home by Law Enforcement, belittling any female who gets within 20 feet of you, scaring many females who get within 20 feet of you, scaring the hell out of your family and friends,,, fun time ??? Not my definition.
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