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Old 03-12-2022, 10:19 AM
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Keep in mind that there are no crease, lumps or bumps that I can see. Went over with a magnifying glass and came up with nothing. Even if there was a minor blemish, that grade is not warranted. If anyone can point out the deficiency and I would appreciate it.


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Old 03-12-2022, 10:26 AM
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This is crazy, I would've guessed 5 or 6

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I would say it's his 4.07 ERA

That's craziness.
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Impossible to tell from those pics but there absolutely has to be a wrinkle to take it down that low.
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Impossible to tell from those pics but there absolutely has to be a wrinkle to take it down that low.
I thought of a wrinkle that I'm not seeing, if so, I was expectinga 6 . Would a wrinkle take it down three grades?
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That’s a great looking 3. Here is what I saw (not saying it knocks it down to a 3, though): a little diamondie; a few fish eyes; and a very small nick out of the card on the back, mid right side. Nice card.
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I thought of a wrinkle that I'm not seeing, if so, I was expectinga 6 . Would a wrinkle take it down three grades?
Yes it could. Would get nothing higher than a 4. It appears NM-MT, to me.
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Keep in mind that there are no crease, lumps or bumps that I can see. Went over with a magnifying glass and came up with nothing. Even if there was a minor blemish, that grade is not warranted. If anyone can point out the deficiency and I would appreciate it.


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Grading that card a 3 is criminal IMO. This is the reason I would no longer send card to SGC or PSA for grading.
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Grading that card a 3 is criminal IMO. This is the reason I would no longer send card to SGC or PSA for grading.
The only thing I see is 2 small
white dots on the top black border
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Hard to believe that Buzhardt got the same grade as this N284 which is miscut, creased & has erasure marks

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Unfortunately they are being just like PSA. A wrinkle would not bring it down that low.
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Nice card. Is this a water stain perhaps?
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There may still be something hidden to the naked eye that SGC picked up on. They have an ultra-high resolution lighting camera that intensifies the image and projects it in an enlarged form for all to see. For example, sometimes they can spot hidden creases with that image. In your defense, I would say if it's not visible to the naked eye, then why are they so concerned about grading it as though it were visible?
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