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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: ramram
I'm more of the baseball image collector than card collector so I'm looking for the OJ expert's opinions. I've got the full group of Brooklyn N173's from the Corkhill estate (Corkhill apparently trimmed off the OJ ad on all of them and mounted them as they all have a strip of glue on the back). The group includes every player from the 1889 AA championship team including a two player card and one of the manager. The only player not identified on the negative is, obviously, of pitcher Tom Lovett. It has the standard "Goodwin & Co." notation in the negative but does not have Lovett's name. I don't have the more recent price guides but the one I have does not show an N173 of Lovett pitching. My question is this - does this mean this uncatologued card is more valuable or are there so many uncatalogued cards showing up all the time that they aren't considered particularly rare? Is this the same case for N172's? |
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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: Rhys
I think it makes them more valuable, but the guys at SCD do not seem to think so. I have an N173 of Radbourn tagging Billy Nash. When it was bought it was uncatalogued, but because it came to the market and I had it, it was subsequently catalogued in the SCD 2004 big book. The price they listed in there was the same as other Radbourn's, with no premium. If it was still uncatalogued then I would think I could ask a premium, but now I tell people it is only catalogued because of the one I have, and they dont really care. You can bet that by posting it on this board, it will be catalogued in the 2006 edition for sure though. Regardless, it is a beautiful image. |
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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: Adam J. Baxter
Hi Rob, |
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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: Jay Miller
Several points |
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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: ramram
Is this image of Lovett catalogued in the N172's? |
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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: Jay Miller
Yes, the image is cataloged as an N172 |
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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: ramram
If I'm going to sell it I better do it soon while it's still uncatalogued just in case a couple of collectors feel it carries some small premium. I'll probably list it on eBay but I suppose just in the process of auctioning off an uncatalogued card you're going to end up causing it to be catalogued. Kind of a catch-22 I suppose. |
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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: hankron
I wrote it down on a post-it and stuck it it to Cycleback refrigerator door. Halve the price. |
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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: jay behrens
but if Henry jumps up and eats it, does it still count as being catalogued? |
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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: Rhys
You didn't save me any trouble but thanks for the effort. I had this Radbourn sold last year to a collector and I told him it was an uncatalogued N173 pose of Radbourn tagging Nash. He looked in the guide and saw that it was catalogued as of 2004 (It was not in my 2003 book at the time)and backed out of the deal completely based on this information. There may not be people who collect N173's based on pose, but everybody knows there are people who pay money for things based on perceived rarity whether real or not. |
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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: hankron
If there are only two of a card in the entire universe and you own both, don't sell them at the same time. If you do, people will assume the cards are commmon because two are available at the same time. |
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N173 Old Judge Cabinet question
Posted By: jay behrens
DAvid, you are right on the money. I always used to snicker at dealers that had stack of some hot rookie on table asking more than book for the things. I had 50 Montana rookies in 1991 at one of the last shows I ever set up at. I only put one of them in my case. The rest sat in a box until I sold the one in the case. By the end of the day, I had sold almost all 50 for about double the current book while other dealers that had bunch in their show case at the start of show, still had most of them at the end and were bemoaning the fact the Montana's were selling so slow, lol. |
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