OT: An all time line up just for fun, whos yours?

[EvilKing00]

How about an all time batting order with a bench (15 players) of all time players, who would you pick and what would be your batting order? Remember its a team, you need to field a team and have back ups. Your the manager!

Here's my line up:

1 - Cobb - CF
2 - Eddie Collins 2B
3 - Ruth - RF
4 - Ted Williams - LF
5 - Gehrig - 1B
6 - Alex Rodriguez SS
7 - Mike Piazza C
8 - Mike Schmidt 3B

Bench:
Johnny Bench C
Rogers Hornsby 2b
Honus Wagner ss
Rickey Henderson OF
Barry Bonds OF
Willie Mays OF
Jimmie Foxx 1B

[39special]

Heres mine
1 Ichiro rf
2 Rose 2b
3 Gerhig 1b
4 Schmidt 3b
5 Mays cf
6 Campenella c
7 Williams lf
8 O.Smith ss

Bench

Mantle of
Ruth of
J.Robinson inf
Banks inf
Bench c
Clemente of
Ripken inf

[Stonepony]

Mine. Not necessarily greatest, but dream game lineup for me to watch
1 J Robinson 2B
2 E Banks SS
3 T Williams LF
4 B Ruth DH
5 M Mantle CF
6 G Brett 3B
7 L Gehrig 1B
8 R Jackson RF
9 J Bench C
10 C Mathewson P

[wolf441]

Here's mine (for a one game, life on the line team):

2B - Joe Morgan
OF - Ty Cobb
OF - Willie Mays
OF - Babe Ruth
1B - Lou Gehrig
SS - Honus Wagner
3B - Mike Schmidt
C - Johnny Bench
P - Walter Johnson

Bench

C - Ivan Rodriguez
1B - Willie McCovey
2B - Robby Alomar
SS - Derek Jeter
3B - Pie Traynor
OF - Ted Williams
OF - Rickey Henderson
OF - Stan Musial
OF - Mickey Mantle

Bullpen

RP - Dick Radatz
RP - Bruce Sutter
RP - Dennis Eckersley
Closer - Mariano Rivera

[ElCabron]

1 - Oscar Charleston CF
2 - Ted Williams LF
3 - Babe Ruth RF
4 - Josh Gibson C
5 - Lou Gehrig 1B
6 - Rogers Hornsby 2B
7 - Honus Wagner SS
8 - Mike Schmidt 3B

If the pitcher also hits, give me Martin Dihigo. If not, Walter Johnson. If there's a DH, make it Ted Williams and give me Barry Bonds in left.

-Ryan

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by NoizeBringer

1 - Oscar Charleston CF
2 - Ted Williams LF
3 - Babe Ruth RF
4 - Josh Gibson C
5 - Lou Gehrig 1B
6 - Rogers Hornsby 2B
7 - Honus Wagner SS
8 - Mike Schmidt 3B

If the pitcher also hits, give me Martin Dihigo. If not, Walter Johnson. If there's a DH, make it Ted Williams and give me Barry Bonds in left.

-Ryan

Ryan - WaJo was considered to be a very-good-hitting pitcher. In fact, he was frequently used as a pinch hitter when he wasn't pitching.
Val

All-Time "Banned From Baseball List" (Pre-the end of World War I):

Vernon Ayau SS
Bud Fowler 3B
Charlie Grant 2B
Jimmy Claxton 1B
Welday Walker OF
Merito Acosta OF
Jose Acosta OF
Fleet Walker C
Lang Akana P

A couple out of position, but understand Fowler played all over the field. Claxton played C/1B/RF in semi-pro baseball. Merito Acosta did play professional baseball but "retired" at age 22. Don't think Jose Acosta did anything but pitch but oh well, this is for fun.

[ShoelessCrusader]

My starting lineup:

1. Lou Gehrig 1st base
2. Rogers Hornsby 2nd base
3. Honus Wagner shortstop
4. Mike Schmidt 3rd base
5. Johnny Bench catcher
6. Ted Williams leftfield
7. Willie Mays centerfield
8. Babe Ruth rightfield
9. Sandy Koufax starting pitcher

[Mark]

I would really like to see how this lineup would handle modern pitching.

Cobb
Wagner
Ruth
Gehrig
Hornsby
Williams
Bench
Schmidt
Johnson

I would platoon Mays with Williams just because there's something wrong with an all time lineup without Willie Mays.

[camlov2]

This is all about who I would want to see and not who is the best, no particular batting order.

J Jackson - OF
Musial - OF
Griffey - OF
Gehrig - 1b
J. Robinson - 2b
Wagner - ss
Brett - 3b
Gibson - C
Johnson - P

Cobb - OF
Ruth - OF
Banks - in
T. Williams - OF
B. Weaver - in
Mathewson - P

[ShoelessCrusader]

Originally Posted by ShoelessCrusader

My starting lineup:

1. Lou Gehrig 1st base
2. Rogers Hornsby 2nd base
3. Honus Wagner shortstop
4. Mike Schmidt 3rd base
5. Johnny Bench catcher
6. Ted Williams leftfield
7. Willie Mays centerfield
8. Babe Ruth rightfield
9. Sandy Koufax starting pitcher

It seems a lot of us have similar lineups. Here's what my bench would look like:

1. Jimmie Foxx 1B
2. Jackie Robinson 2B
3. Derek Jeter SS
4. Brooks Robinson 3B
5. Yogi Berra C
6. Stan Musial LF
7. Ty Cobb CF
8. Hank Aaron RF
9. Walter Johnson SP

Not too bad for a bunch of backups, huh?

[glynparson]

1b- Lou Gehrig
2b- Joe Morgan
3b- Mike Schmidt
SS- Honus Wagner
Rf- Babe Ruth
Cf- Willie Mays
Lf- Barry Bonds
C- Johnny Bench
Dh- Ted Williams
Sp- Walter Johnson
Rp- Mariano Rivera

Bench-
Ty Cobb
Rickey Henderson
Pete Rose

[the 'stache]

Just to be clear, that's not my lineup. Just the players by position. I'm still trying to figure out how the lineup would be constructed. Maybe something like this:

1. Willie Mays R
2. Ted Williams L
3. Rogers Hornsby R
4. Babe Ruth L
5. Mike Schmidt R
6. Lou Gehrig L
7. Honus Wagner R
8. Roberto Clemente R
9. Johnny Bench R

[Sean]

LINEUP:

Honus Wagner, SS
Joe Morgan, 2B
Babe Ruth, RF
Lou Gehrig, 1B
Barry Bonds, LF *
Willie Mays, CF
Josh Gibson, C
Mike Schmidt, 3B
Walter Johnson, P

BENCH:

Johhny Bench, C
Albert Pujols, 1B
Jackie Robinson, 2B+3B
Cal Ripken, SS
Ty Cobb, OF
Oscar Charleston, OF
Ted Williams, OF

STARTERS:
Walter Johnson
Lefty Grove
Greg Maddux
Sandy Koufax
Roger Clemens *

BULLPEN:
Tom Seaver
Randy Johnson
Satchell Paige
Dennis Eckersley, Set-up
Mariano Rivera, Closer

COACHES:
Casey Stengel, Mgr
John Mcgraw
Earl Weaver
Tony LaRussa

* Both Bonds and Clemens were great players before using steroids, so I chose them on that basis alone.

[gavvy]

Lou Gehrig-1B
Napolean Lajoie-2B

[gavvy]

Lou Gehrig-1B
Napolean Lajoie-2B
Pop Lloyd-SS
George Brett-3B
Josh Gibson-C
Ed Delahanty-LF
Mickey Mantle-CF
Ty Cobb-RF

[rhettyeakley]

1 - Ty Cobb CF
2 - Ted Williams LF
3 - Babe Ruth RF
4 - Josh Gibson C
5 - Lou Gehrig 1B
6 - Rogers Hornsby 2B
7 - Honus Wagner SS
8 - George Brett 3B

9 - Walter Johnson P
Christy Mathewson P
Randy Johnson P
Greg Maddux P
Lefty Grove P

[btcarfagno]

I don't understand the whole "lefty-righty-lefty-righty" lineup thing. It's a move designed to make the other manager potentially have to make decisions in later innings at the expense of having your optimal lineup in place. I just don't get it.

Tom C

p.s. Anyone who put Derek Jeter in place of Honus Wagner can eat my shorts.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

I don't understand the whole "lefty-righty-lefty-righty" lineup thing. It's a move designed to make the other manager potentially have to make decisions in later innings at the expense of having your optimal lineup in place. I just don't get it.

Tom C

p.s. Anyone who put Derek Jeter in place of Honus Wagner can eat my shorts.

I've been wondering about the Jeter thing as well. If you don't want Wagner because he's "too long ago", well that's up to you guys. But how does anyone take Jeter over Cal Ripken?

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

I don't understand the whole "lefty-righty-lefty-righty" lineup thing. It's a move designed to make the other manager potentially have to make decisions in later innings at the expense of having your optimal lineup in place. I just don't get it.

Tom C

p.s. Anyone who put Derek Jeter in place of Honus Wagner can eat my shorts.

lol totally agree, jeter isn't even the best ss of the last 20 years let alone all time.

[Runscott]

cf Cobb
ss Wagner
rf Ruth
1b Gehrig
c Bench
lf Williams
2b Lajoie
3b Brooks Robinson
p Walter Johnson

Mays
Mantle
Hornsby
Mathewson
Robinson
Campanella

[slipk1068]

Cobb cf
Hornsby 2b
Ruth lf
Gehrig 1b
J. Jackson rf
Wagner ss
Schmidt 3b
Piazza c

Mathewson
Johnson
Alexander
Spahn
Carlton

Rivera

[Exhibitman]

Fun idea. Here's my lineup:

1. Rickey Henderson LF
2. Willie Mays CF
3. Babe Ruth RF
4. Lou Gehrig 1B
5. Honus Wagner SS
6. Jackie Robinson 2B
7. Mike Schmidt 3B
8. Johnny Bench C
9. Walter Johnson RHP, Sandy Koufax LHP, Mariano Rivera closer
if we get a DH:
9. Ted Williams

My bench (4):

Hank Aaron, Stan Musial, Oscar Charleston, Josh Gibson.

A few are surprises, I guess, so I will explain:

Rickey Henderson: I want a leadoff hitter to get on base for the heavy lumber I have coming up next. Look at these on-base figures:

1980 AL .420 (3rd)
1981 AL .408 (3rd)
1982 AL .398 (3rd)
1983 AL .414 (2nd)
1984 AL .399 (3rd)
1985 AL .419 (4th)
1988 AL .394 (5th)
1989 AL .411 (3rd)
1990 AL .439 (1st)
1991 AL .400 (6th)
1992 AL .426 (2nd)**
1993 AL .432 (3rd)
1994 AL .411 (8th)
1995 AL .407 (10th)
1996 NL .410 (5th)
1999 NL .423 (7th)

in his prime, Henderson was as good as anyone at getting on base and a walk or single for Rickey was often a de facto double or triple for Rickey.

I put Robinson on the team for the same reason: he got on base a lot and drove pitchers and catchers crazy.

Why Koufax? I picked players for their peak performances, and Koufax at his best was a world-killer. Besides, speed kills; you can't hit what you can't see.

I did not put Cobb or Hornsby on the team. Great players, no questions there, but lousy teammates. I don't think Cobb could have stomached the blacks and Jews and Hispanics on the team, so why have him? Hornsby was so loathed as a player that he was traded twice in three seasons in his prime.

I left out all of the steroid-linked players, which kept Bonds and possibly Clemens off. I happen to believe that Bonds and Clemens are worthy of any alltime team except that I am convinced that they cheated, so the heck with them.

[MMarvelli]

All Time line-up...just for fun

1B Salty Parker
2B Cookie Rojas
SS Rabbit Maranville
3B Pie Traynor
LF Ducky Medwick
CF Turkey Stearns
RF Darryl Strawberry (Pepper Martin on DL)
C Pickles Dilhofer
DH Ty Cobb

RHP Candy Cummings...Peaches Davis...Spud Chandler

LHP Karl Spooner...Carl 'Meal Ticket' Hubbell

CLOSER Goose Gossage

UTIL Frank Buttery

Top minor league prospect and September call-up: Ham Patterson

MGR Bob Lemon

PARK Coors Field...Busch Stadium...Tropicana Field

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Here's my list (while on the "juice" of course):

1B Mark McGwire
2B Chuck Knoblauch
SS Miguel Tejada
3B Alex Rodriguez
C Ivan Rodriguez
OF Barry Bonds
OF Sammy Sosa
OF Gary Sheffield
P Roger Clemens

[pepis]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

Here's my list (while on the "juice" of course):

1B Mark McGwire
2B Chuck Knoblauch
SS Miguel Tejada
3B Alex Rodriguez
C Ivan Rodriguez
OF Barry Bonds
OF Sammy Sosa
OF Gary Sheffield
P Roger Clemens

Pretty good Dan,
i would make one change though, i would put in Juan Gonzalez
instead of Shefield.

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by pepis

Pretty good Dan,
i would make one change though, i would put in Juan Gonzalez
instead of Shefield.

lol thought u were gonna say jeff kent instead of Knoblauch

[Sean]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

Here's my list (while on the "juice" of course):

1B Mark McGwire
2B Chuck Knoblauch
SS Miguel Tejada
3B Alex Rodriguez
C Ivan Rodriguez
OF Barry Bonds
OF Sammy Sosa
OF Gary Sheffield
P Roger Clemens

And at DH: Mike Piazza