Ignorance vs. Thievery

[ksabet]

I am wondering what opinions people have in regards to listings that are brought to our attention and how many of them are crooks who take advantage of people and how much of these listings are just people who have no idea what they have.

I once thought I had a Wagner as well...granted I was 12 and it said on the back it was worth $20K...but I really did think I had an amazingly valuable card.


Do you think the majority of these listings are just ignorance or are there really that many greedy unethical crooks out there?

[ullmandds]

90% unethical crooks

10% overoptimism.

[Howe’s Hunter]

90% crooked.

5% arrogant.

3% stupid.

and worst of all ...

2% stupidly arrogant.

[ALR-bishop]

If you happened to be stupid, you might as well be arrogant about it.

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by StuckInOmaha

90% crooked.

5% arrogant.

3% stupid.

and worst of all ...

2% stupidly arrogant.

Nice! this breakdown seems to take the cake.

[Bocabirdman]

You forgot about the 0.0000000001 % who are right and we are wrong (in general, not about Honus).

[glchen]

My opinion is 99% thievery and 1% ignorance. If they didn't know whether the card is authentic for all of the listings, why do they all have no return policies? And who would not send a big dollar card in for authentication? Practically anyone can google Babe Ruth or any of the other big names and see that these items are worth a lot.

[drcy]

You can usually tell by the wording. "My local card shop said it looks real but according to eBay rules since it it is not graded I must sell it as an reprint" and is wording from someone who knows it's crap. I've more than once said you can often identify a fake by reading the auction description and not even looking at the images.

You can also tell by messaging that the item is a fake and observe how he/she reacts. I had someone who said he didn't realize and removed the auction-- obviously an innocent person. Others just ignore you or worse.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by StuckInOmaha

90% crooked.

5% arrogant.

3% stupid.

and worst of all ...

2% stupidly arrogant.

You can +1 me on that assessment.

Happy collecting,

Larry

[Sean]

Originally Posted by glchen

My opinion is 99% thievery and 1% ignorance. If they didn't know whether the card is authentic for all of the listings, why do they all have no return policies? And who would not send a big dollar card in for authentication? Practically anyone can google Babe Ruth or any of the other big names and see that these items are worth a lot.

+1

[Brian Van Horn]

Let us not forget the ones who have the cards from their grandfather's attics and have a 0 feedback rating. They fall under the inbred idiot thieves.

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Let us not forget the ones who have the cards from their grandfather's attics and have a 0 feedback rating. They fall under the inbred idiot thieves.

It is so bad that if I DID find cards in an attic, I would, intentionally, specifically, NOT mention it in any listing.

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

It is so bad that if I DID find cards in an attic, I would, intentionally, specifically, NOT mention it in any listing.

+1 right there with you.

[Joshchisox08]

I'd say about 85% Thievery, 10% ignorance and 5% insane.