An Open Letter to the Forum - Re: Bruce Dorskin (suspended)

[Marckus99]

This has surely been a long time coming, but when is enough enough
in regards to Bruce Dorskin's bullshit, ignorance and nonsense?

Are we not here to share, discuss and enjoy our hobby?

Surely, Bruce has acquired many gems over the years, but what is his sense
of purpose with this board? Shouldn't he share his knowledge (and pieces)
and experience to inform us and to better appreciate certain issues or items?

Not all of us drive a Bentley in this hobby. There are those, or atleast myself
that drive a Yugo......and still enjoy picking up rare pieces, even with
punch holes.

I have dealt with other collectors that have great collections in comparison
to mine, i.e. Dan McKee, Leon Luckey, Scott Brockelman, etc. etc. and never once did they ever belittle me or my bank account or my ability to collect
but lower grade cards.

I keep wondering why is he is allowed to continue to rant on this board.

I know we collectors do not share the same opion on matter.
We also do not always get along, by Bruce and his antics are another
thing altogether.

?

[packs]

There's always going to be THAT guy. And everyone knows the reasons THAT guy exists. Usually it has something to do with them feeling slighted over something and the insecurities that follow suit. Except I find it kinda weird that in this instance we are talking about baseball cards.

[DixieBaseball]

The Solution :

If every time Bruce made a post, no one replied, he could exist in his lonely world with himself, and his imaginary friend.

I have never replied to one of Bruce(s) post. If you guys want to send a message to him, simply ignore him like I do. He does not exist in my world.

[Rich Klein]

He does bring very interesting topics to the table

In opposition to Bruce; he would make us all feel better without the threats. Wishing physical ill on another truly repulses me.

Rich

[barrysloate]

Rich- interesting spelling of "defense."

[egbeachley]

Some of their posts are duds. But just as many garner great discussions. In fact I would say they have an excellent percentage of good posts.

They also avoid repeat posts that can be answered via a quick search.

[baseballart]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Rich- interesting spelling of "defense."

Barry

Rich is an honourary [sic] Canadian.

[sflayank]

im betting dorskind is a fraud
he has no cards no collection and no money
just a lot of talk

[packs]

I haven't been here that long, but I have seen a lot of negative posts from this guy. It's just weird to me that someone would feel like they're better than someone else based solely on their baseball cards. It makes you wonder what it is that they don't have.

[barrysloate]

Bruce has a beautiful collection, I've seen it many times. But he is unable to get along with the people on this board. I've tried countless times to get him to tone it down, to stop sending death threats, to stop talking down to everyone, even to make a tiny concession and stop using "we." But so far I've failed miserably.

[Ladder7]

I disagree Marckus,

Sure, Bruce can be a tool -But, many of us are no angels either and yes, I've been a recipient of his email wrath as well. But make no mistake., He's responsible for the most hilarious, fun-filled threads ever on this board, bar none.

Let him live.

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Bruce has a beautiful collection, I've seen it many times. But he is unable to get along with the people on this board. I've tried countless times to get him to tone it down, to stop sending death threats, to stop talking down to everyone, even to make a tiny concession and stop using "we." But so far I've failed miserably.

Barry,

Instead of talking to him, try talking to "them".

r/
Frank

[DanP]

Whilst I understandist you concernist over Bruces' postist. He isist kind ofist interestingist. Is he any worstist or more annoyingist than Peter was?

I agree with just ignoring him.

Dan

[Zach Wheat]

I agree with the last post. Peter Chao was certainly in another world and very distracting. I would definitely randk the Bruces higher than Peter.

[Exhibitman]

I learned a long time ago there's no sense getting all riled up every time an idiot gives you a hard time. In the end, the universe tends to unfold as it should. Plus I have a really large penis. That keeps me happy.

[T206Collector]

...But I'm totally cool with banning total d1ckheads from Net54. Whatever the bar is, its too high. This isn't a state run democracy, its a chat board. There is no 1st Amendment right to post here. If you pi$$ off a few people here for a regular period of time, you ought to be banned.

Seriously -- if you can death threat another board member and ever post again, I mean GEESH already.... GEESH!

If I had the extremely hard job of being Moderator, I'd understand trying to tolerate a$$sholes. But, again... GEESH already. Enough. He adds nothing but comic relief through tired Seineld references.... No Soup For You! A Dingo Ate Your Baby! HA! I never get bored of mid-90s sitcom references. Can we hear Friends jokes next!? Please!?!?!??

[quinnsryche]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I learned a long time ago there's no sense getting all riled up every time an idiot gives you a hard time. In the end, the universe tends to unfold as it should. Plus I have a really large penis. That keeps me happy.

Ewww! Now THAT is a post that should be banned!!!

[thekingofclout]

The majority may disagree with his methods but you can't argue with his results. He often makes outstanding points, but go unnoticed and become overshadowed by his brash demeanor.

If you don't get Bruce by now, you probably never will. I' m not privy to any threats he's made, and his comments about hoping for someones demise, in my opinion are not that bad. I happen to agree on many of his thoughts on things. If that makes me a "jerk" or "like him" in your opinion, so be it.

Hell, I would be willing to bet that the majority of us were (and still may be) big fans of Howard Stern. Howard would always wish that someone "would get cancer and die" almost on a daily basis. He would even openly pray to Jesus to help make it happen! Yet millions of us tuned in every morning to see what Howard would say next. Howard would also love to "rub it in" to his adversaries (Imus) faces about how successful he had become while they were "losers".

I run Blackjack in one of the biggest casinos in the world, and deal with people from all walks of life and from places that many of us have never heard of. Where force is the only thing they respect. So I'm may be a bit jaded and not easily offended. I'll give you that.

But I believe people vote with their feet, so to speak. If you don't like what Bruce has to say, pay it no attention. Simple as that. If you choose to throw gas on the fire...it's gonna burn, and burn brighter.

Bruce should stay. This is America after all and he has the right to speak his mind. It's not like he's "yelling fire in crowded theater" for God's sake.

You all have the right to do what you want to do, but I will not participate in a Lynch Mob.

Sincerely, Jimmy

[HRBAKER]

We're not splitting atoms here, just ignore him. He has his value purely in an entertainment sense.

Everyone has the right to defend themselves.

If attacked with an arrow, we fire a missile back

We are sick and tired of stupid jokes that emanate from a perfectly legitimate post

As far as we can tell, you are a piece of white trash
who can neither spell or communicate.

It would better to die along than to spend two seconds being you.


Bruce



Not only are you a piece of SH!T I will make sure if I ever see you I will kick you square in the balls hard enough to make sure you are never able to reproduce another POS like you. Pick a fight with anyone but you just got a battle with me. I would suggest you keep your mouth shut when addressing me. Me and the rest of my "White Trash" family don't appreciate it. BTW you have maybe 1% of my families money. They are right there in NY with you. Yet they treat people with respect and don't act better than anyone else because they are greatful of the lifes they get to have. Something your Mother obviously forgot to do. Shame on you Bruce. Also don't PM me again. I don't have anyting but this to say to you. I am dissapointed in you.

Our Posts

Everyone of our 100+ posts focused on a hobby or card issue, with the exception of four that discussed the publication of new book about baseball history or the hobby.

Many of the posts raised questions about the rarity of certain items or called for recognizing achievement. Recognition is an integral part of life in a capitalist, competitive society. Few hobbies, at least at the high end, are as competitive as baseball memorabilia. There are a number of ultra left liberals who would pay through the nose to obtain a card they want.

When our posts gravitate to personal attacks, we respond in kind. If someone wants to call us a name or attack our lifestyle or make-up stories about
our apartment or collection, so be it. But you can expect a response.

There are no threats. We simply told Exhibit Man that we were looking forward to his demise. We did not threaten him in any way shape or form.
We are not interested in stupid responses, personal commentary or a group of uneducated slobs attacking us when they have not had any dealings with us.
As far as we are concerned those folks should stick to chewing tobacco and watching Springer tv reruns.

If we choose to write in the royal "we" that is a conscious decision which is part of what has been an extremely successful marketing strategy.
If we mention a card from our collection and note that is the highest grade, we are simply stating a fact.

We are not interested in fighting, but if you want to shoot an arrow, we are willing to return the favor with a nuclear war head.

As many collectors have noted, both privately and publicly, our posts are among the most interesting. The posts cause problems
when a select group of sarcastic individuals attack us or make us part of their Steinfeld jokes.
We have never begun a post that attacked anyone, nor have we ever participated in the endless Steinfeld humor.

Anyone wishing to contact us, may do so through the board.
Thank you for your consideration in this matter.

Bruce

[Kawika]

Bruce is a fine one to be criticizing anybody's spelling.
PS. Just a hunch, Andrew, but I don't think you have to worry too much about da kine doing any reproducing.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

Everyone has the right to defend themselves.

If attacked with an arrow, we fire a missile back

We are sick and tired of stupid jokes that emanate from a perfectly legitimate post

As far as we can tell, you are a piece of white trash
who can neither spell or communicate.

It would better to die along than to spend two seconds being you.


Bruce



Not only are you a piece of SH!T I will make sure if I ever see you I will kick you square in the balls hard enough to make sure you are never able to reproduce another POS like you. Pick a fight with anyone but you just got a battle with me. I would suggest you keep your mouth shut when addressing me. Me and the rest of my "White Trash" family don't appreciate it. BTW you have maybe 1% of my families money. They are right there in NY with you. Yet they treat people with respect and don't act better than anyone else because they are greatful of the lifes they get to have. Something your Mother obviously forgot to do. Shame on you Bruce. Also don't PM me again. I don't have anyting but this to say to you. I am dissapointed in you.

You seem a bit upset, Andrew?

[barrysloate]

Ultra left liberals?...and it's Seinfeld, no "t."

You have issued a public threat. If you execute on it, you will go to jail,
and all your family's money (if it exists) will be spent bailing you out

Of course, we could kick you in the balls if you had any.

Don't worry about our intent to correspond with you. We dispose of our trash every evening. Perhaps we could see if your family and ours has the same garbage company. That way we can ask the garbage company to throw you and your sick commentary out with the other trash


Bruce

[Rob D.]

"Try spelling our name correctly"

Oh, the irony.

[barrysloate]

I'll take the job...potato salad!

[Tcards-Please]

or do I need to lay off the alcohol? There seems to be two different thread subjects, with the same posts. This one and one that starts with "Dear Bruce" by Pup.

r/
Frank

[JP]

"The Dorskind Group is a niche strategic consulting and merchant banking firm, founded in 1993. The Dorskind Group serves the needs of a number of the world's leading advertising agencies, media companies,
web organizations and private equity firms. We work with clients on
four continents. The focus of our work is strategic business development and mergers and acquisitions."

How do clients of the Dorskind Group react to the chairman posting in this manner?

Originally Posted by Yankeefan51

You have issued a public threat. If you execute on it, you will go to jail,
and all your family's money (if it exists) will be spent bailing you out

Of course, we could kick you in the balls if you had any.

Don't worry about our intent to correspond with you. We dispose of our trash every evening. Perhaps we could see if your family and ours has the same garbage company. That way we can ask the garbage company to throw you and your sick commentary out with the other trash


Bruce

Bruce I assure you that if I ever did come face to face with you, your balls would be the last thing I went for. Sounds like you are asking for a little game of Roe Sham Bo!! I will even give you first go. I would never stoop to that level to harm you in any way FYI.

Also an assault like that will not even go on my record. Thats what lawyers are for. A night in Jail for me and you 2-3 weeks laid up. Well worth the trade. Oh and about a couple K in fees to pay. Also the phycological damage and my reputation as a upstanding citizen and Veteran of foreign wars may weigh heavier in favor of a jury to side with me than a pompous a$$ like you. Becareful the ice you tread on. I may have stronger ties than you think.

[barrysloate]

Okay guys...time to head to your neutral corners.

[SethY]

I still don't know what is going on here but I think since Bruce always refers to others (including himself) as "we" in his posts, I think it would only be fair if he signed their names at the end of each post also. That way we (the board members) can see if this is what "we" (Bruce and "friends") all think, or if it is just Bruce himself.

[batsballsbases]

Barry Please I just went and sat down with a big bowl of popcorn and a soda! Its been a long day and I was looking forward to a nice blow out on the NET54 site. Dont spoil it by letting the to combatants go to neutral corners. I so do love a good cat fight now and then.

[barrysloate]

I recognize the entertainment value of this thread, but it's starting to get really nasty. Look, nobody listens to me, so I assume this one still has some legs.

[JP]

Has Bruce really made death threats? I'd figure that'd be a one-and-done way to get kicked off the board...

[jerseygary]

As a guy who reads this board everyday but rarely posts, I got to say that I find Bruces posts amusing more than anything else. That "Bring The Noize" failed golfer guy who got banned a while ago, now THAT was a person who caused trouble on the board, not Bruces little posts.

My Baseball Card Project:
www.infinitecardset.blogspot.com

[batsballsbases]

Thanks Barry just a good hour should do the trick!

[botn]

Barry is trying to shut down two great threads. Come on Barry, let us have some fun.

And yes JP. Bruce issues death threats in PMs, emails and directly on the board. On the other Bruce thread I listed the ones I could think of that he has sent my way in the last 4 years.

[martin neal]

Watch out Andrew, Bruce may gang up on you.

[batsballsbases]

Martin,
Its Bruces may gang up on you. Dont forget the plural. Or is that brucei

Originally Posted by martin neal

Watch out Andrew, Bruce may gang up on you.

So be it then. I am sure I would be doing us all a favor but its beneath me to harm someone that has special needs. I gave up fighting when I decided wars with words left nothing but an EGO hurt. Plus I love my wife and kids to much to put them through the torment of the reprocusions of harming a special needs person. What kind of monster would that make me I say this in the most endearing way.

[Bamacollection]

He said "Brucei" !!! I love it!

[Tom S.]

Originally Posted by batsballsbases

Martin,
Its Bruces may gang up on you. Dont forget the plural. Or is that brucei

Every time that I read one of Yankeefan51's posts, I wonder if all of the Dorskind Group meetings are similar to this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA

[Fred]

Posts/threads associated with Bruce always seem to be very lengthy. Whether he starts the post or the post is about him the threads seem to take on a new life of their own.

- His charm is so contagious, vaccines we’re created for it.

- He is the only person to ever ace a Rorschach Test.

- His reputation is expanding, faster then the universe.

- He once had an akward moment, just to see how it feels.

- He lives vicariously through himself.

- If a monument was built in his honor, Mt. Rushmore would close, due to poor attendance.

- Mexico once cancelled Cinco de Mayo because he had a scheduling conflict

Ok, he's not the most interesting man in the world but this board seems to find the time to chime in on the posts in which he participates. Let's do a poll!!!

1. I like Bruce
2. I don't like Bruce
3. I really don't like Bruce, I'd like to kick him in the balls
4. Whilst I don't care for the Bruces I do seem to find his posts interesting

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Yankeefan51

Our Posts

Everyone of our 100+ posts focused on a hobby or card issue, with the exception of four that discussed the publication of new book about baseball history or the hobby.

Many of the posts raised questions about the rarity of certain items or called for recognizing achievement. Recognition is an integral part of life in a capitalist, competitive society. Few hobbies, at least at the high end, are as competitive as baseball memorabilia. There are a number of ultra left liberals who would pay through the nose to obtain a card they want.

When our posts gravitate to personal attacks, we respond in kind. If someone wants to call us a name or attack our lifestyle or make-up stories about
our apartment or collection, so be it. But you can expect a response.

There are no threats. We simply told Exhibit Man that we were looking forward to his demise. We did not threaten him in any way shape or form.
We are not interested in stupid responses, personal commentary or a group of uneducated slobs attacking us when they have not had any dealings with us.
As far as we are concerned those folks should stick to chewing tobacco and watching Springer tv reruns.

If we choose to write in the royal "we" that is a conscious decision which is part of what has been an extremely successful marketing strategy.
If we mention a card from our collection and note that is the highest grade, we are simply stating a fact.

We are not interested in fighting, but if you want to shoot an arrow, we are willing to return the favor with a nuclear war head.

As many collectors have noted, both privately and publicly, our posts are among the most interesting. The posts cause problems
when a select group of sarcastic individuals attack us or make us part of their Steinfeld jokes.
We have never begun a post that attacked anyone, nor have we ever participated in the endless Steinfeld humor.

Anyone wishing to contact us, may do so through the board.
Thank you for your consideration in this matter.

Bruce

It's SEINFELD, not Steinfeld. At least learn the correct popular culture references to slam...

Originally Posted by Fred

Posts/threads associated with Bruce always seem to be very lengthy. Whether he starts the post or the post is about him the threads seem to take on a new life of their own.

- His charm is so contagious, vaccines we’re created for it.

- He is the only person to ever ace a Rorschach Test.

- His reputation is expanding, faster then the universe.

- He once had an akward moment, just to see how it feels.

- He lives vicariously through himself.

- If a monument was built in his honor, Mt. Rushmore would close, due to poor attendance.

- Mexico once cancelled Cinco de Mayo because he had a scheduling conflict

Ok, he's not the most interesting man in the world but this board seems to find the time to chime in on the posts in which he participates. Let's do a poll!!!

1. I like Bruce
2. I don't like Bruce
3. I really don't like Bruce, I'd like to kick him in the balls
4. Whilst I don't care for the Bruces I do seem to find his posts interesting

Its a 3 for me

[cbcbcb]

How about a 5. Never Heard of Bruce or the Bruces until this thread.

[batsballsbases]

Wow,
there seems to be alot of hatred being aimed at the Bruce( Bruces) Balls! Maybe one of the Brucei should consider an operation that way we would know which one to kick!

[teetwoohsix]

At this point,it's hard to imagine that the Bruces could ever clean up "their mess".Not that the Bruces would ever think of apologizing to anyone,for they are too arrogant to think of such a thing.But the total disrespect and threats they have spewed to many board members is unacceptable.

I must admit,the "Archive" thread was one of the funniest things I've ever read here on Net54,,,,especially that it came from an "Ivy League Graduate"!!
Strange..........Really though Bruces-take a step back and think about how you disrespect people-it's despicable.

Clayton

[botn]

Does it really get any better than this? http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ite....html#comments