Could Caitlyn Clark compete with D1 men?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

Haha what does that mean exactly? That reaching the major leagues is not a measurement of success in the sport?

I am saying, while shocked it needs further clarification and even needed to be said in the first place, that a pitcher with a 54 ERA is not competitive by any rational definition. Obviously. Making it as a publicity stunt and then getting shelled would not be a success for the narrative, women, the league, or anyone else.

The league and the media would absolutely love having a new diversity first to promote. The only reason not to bring a woman in is because they are not actually going to be competitive and it will be embarrassing. There’s a reason it hasn’t happened.

[packs]

Originally Posted by G1911

I am saying, while shocked it needs further clarification and even needed to be said in the first place, that a pitcher with a 54 ERA is not competitive by any rational definition. Obviously. Making it as a publicity stunt and then getting shelled would not be a success for the narrative, women, the league, or anyone else.

The league and the media would absolutely love having a new diversity first to promote. The only reason not to bring a woman in is because they are not actually going to be competitive and it will be embarrassing. There’s a reason it hasn’t happened.

You are inventing a scenario where a woman is a publicity stunt.

You also contending that reaching the major leagues isn't an accomplishment unless you dominate in some way. Progressing through the minor leagues and playing in a major league game is a major accomplishment for anyone regardless of performance.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

You are inventing a scenario where a woman is a publicity stunt.

You also contending that reaching the major leagues isn't an accomplishment unless you dominate in some way. Progressing through the minor leagues and playing in a major league game is a major accomplishment for anyone regardless of performance.

Obviously a woman coming in and getting slammed for a 54 ERA 8: a publicity stunt. It is not competitive. You can call being a diversity hire a competitive all you want, but it’s not competitive in this scenario you tried to spin into a win and would make abundantly clear that a woman is not going to be competitive.

There is a giant gap between a 54 ERA and having to “dominate in some way to be competitive. Can we apply some basic common sense and think about things before just spouting bullshit?

[packs]

Originally Posted by G1911

Obviously a woman coming in and getting slammed for a 54 ERA 8: a publicity stunt. It is not competitive. You can call being a diversity hire a competitive all you want, but it’s not competitive in this scenario you tried to spin into a win and would make abundantly clear that a woman is not going to be competitive.

There is a giant gap between a 54 ERA and having to “dominate in some way to be competitive. Can we apply some basic common sense and think about things before just spouting bullshit?

Common sense like considering this woman was drafted or signed out of high school or college, or perhaps signed as an amateur free agent like every single person ever signed by a major league team? Common sense like considering this woman pitched several seasons of minor league baseball and was called up to the majors?

How are these things not common sense considerations to make about a potential woman playing major league baseball? That is how you find yourself on a major league roster.

I think what goes against common sense is to suggest the only scenario under which a woman plays major league baseball is a publicity stunt.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

Common sense like considering this woman was drafted or signed out of high school or college, or perhaps signed as an amateur free agent like every single person ever signed by a major league team? Common sense like considering this woman pitched several seasons of minor league baseball and was called up to the majors?

How are these things not common sense considerations to make about a potential woman playing major league baseball? That is how you find yourself on a major league roster.

I think what goes against common sense is to suggest the only scenario under which a woman plays major league baseball is a publicity stunt.

Yeah, I'm sure a woman will make it via genuine merit and performance. That's why, with a league that would absolutely love for that to happen, it never has.

We know damn well that if a woman was placed on the roster tomorrow it would be a diversity agenda publicity stunt. I'm sure you and a good deal of others would consider that 54 ERA a success for some fantasyland bullshit you want to make up because narrative comes first, but any rational person knows well that's not competitive. Can't wait for the next absurdist spin.

[packs]

You keep saying placed on a roster and eluding to publicity stunts which has to mean you aren't considering a woman playing her way onto a team. It makes it very difficult to have a conversation about competitiveness when you don't allow any space for a person to be skilled.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

You keep saying placed on a roster and eluding to publicity stunts which has to mean you aren't considering a woman playing her way onto a team. It makes it very difficult to have a conversation about competitiveness when you don't allow any space for a person to be skilled.

For the 50th time, if a woman could play at that level, it would have happened. The league and the media would absolutely love the ability to have a diversity push and talk about how great this is and forward thinking and inclusive they are. The ONLY reason for it not to happen is that it will be an embarrassment, and almost everyone knows it. Women cannot play competitively with men in most sports and physical activities for the obvious physiological reasons. It is a simple and blatantly obvious fact everyone was aware of until the PC crowd decided they didn't like reality. I'm sorry reality does not mesh with your agenda and what you want to find. It is very difficult to have a conversation when you deny objective reality.