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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Jon Canfield
Jodi - quick question for you... I have a few baseballs that have PSA/DNA, GAI and/or JSA stickers on them. While the stickers are on side panels, I'm not quite sure I like them. If I decide to remove them, are you aware of any damage they will cause or is there a proper way to remove them? |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Jon, |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Rhys
I thought that the DNA portion of PSA/DNA was for an invisible strip of DNA that was placed on the item which could be seen under black light or something to ensure authentication and was part of the authenticating fee. If this was the technology out there as advertised at the beginning, why did they go to a sticker? |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Such things are explained in the fine print of the submission form. There are times at shows (most of the time, actually) where authenticators are flooded with submissions and badgered with a litany of other questions so that there is not sufficient time in the day to satisfy everybody. Everything is explained on the submission form. The companies do their best to answer any questions. It has to be up to the consumer to do at least a little bit of homework before deciding which path to take. If the tables were turned, I certainly wouldn't dive head-first into such an undertaking in total or partial blindness. So, no, a customer could not sucessfully sue the authentication company after he/she has signed their submission form. |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: David Atkatz
Jodi, people who are supposed to be experts regarding the care and handling of original holographic material (as all of these companies advertise their employees to be) should know better than to ever attach anything, in any manner other than archivally (i.e., that cannot be removed without leaving a trace.) |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Beleive me, David, I agree. I've already spoken my piece in this regard and do not wish to be redundant. |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: David Atkatz
I didn't mean you, Jodi. I have the utmost respect for your knowledge and expertise. |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
I know what you mean by serious , but there actually are some "serious" collectors who do find the need to have every piece authenticated. By and large, these people collect different types of material than you or I (mostly shiny stuff), but they pursue their material with as much passion and fervor as we do. For the most part, though, your statement is correct. |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Max Weder
I bought one book that was authenticated by GAI--not mentioned in the auction. The non-removable sticker ruined the book from a collector's perspective. Absolutely insane, especially for a Phil Esposito signature (ok, I admit it--I'm Canadian ) |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Rhys
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: William
If memory serves, I seem to recall there being a box on the PSA/DNA submission form where you could request that no stickers be placed on your item. The last time I considered their services was around 2003 though, so my memory could be off. I never sent in any of my items, mainly due to the mere potential of someone missing that note, and a sticker being placed on my item. |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Jon Canfield
Well, just to follow up on my initial post regarding my items in question... First, my items were not that "high value." The Ford item I have is neat since I was doing a report in high school on the Kennedy assassination and I wrote to former President Ford asking him questions relating to the Warren Commission. He wrote me a very nice letter back regarding the findings. Both the authentication stickers were placed on the back of the letter toward the bottom and although they do show through the front of a letter (in shadow form I guess), they are not on the front. I have chosen to have the letter matted so I will matte out the bottom so the "show-though" cannot be seen. Also, I'm sure if I wanted to, I could have a document restorer remove the stickers but the letter isn't worth the money it would cost me to have the stickers removed. |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: davidcycleback
As far as signed photos, posters and art prints go, I rarely mind a sticker on the back. Can live without them being put on the front. So placement would be the key for me. |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
The stickers are designed in such a manner as to prevent tampering. This was thought out in advance by their various creators. Stickers were meant to serve as a permanent record to attest to an item's legitimacy. Feel free to reference my prior posts for any of my other comments. I could go on about this ad infinitum , but I'd rather direct you to the companies who are responsible for what you find so reprehensible. I ask that you heretofore direct such questions to PSA, JSA and GAI as opposed to me. May they fight their own battles. |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Rhys
I understand where you are coming from Jodi and had I been employed by JSA I would have stuck the stickers on there too because that would have been my job so I was in no way trying to make reference to you personally and if you took it that way I do apologize. |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
Jodi, what (if anything) is being implied by the last part of your last comment? Please explain. |
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Question for Jodi re: PSA/DNA Stickers, etc
Posted By: davidcycleback
If you remove a sticker, there will be some customers who will wonder why there is no sticker as there normally would be on such an item. If you didn't want the sticker on the signed object, I recall PSA would instead put it on the LOA. They often did this with a group lot LOA. With a removed sticker, there would be no sticker on anything where there normally would be. Obviously, this would be more the situation with generic COAs than full LOAs that picture the signature. |
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