New Ebay Authentication service

[Lorewalker]

PSA now part of the authenticity team for verifying that graded cards' holders and labels are 100% legit. How would PSA know about any other TPG holders and labels being legit or not?????

And the link to the eBay announcement

https://pages.ebay.com/authenticity-...=20013&mkevt=1

[brunswickreeves]

I view eBay Authentication as an important and first stage gate in grading, with onus initially on the seller (vs. buyer incurring cost for grading only to find out is fake). It passes, you receive the card in a tamper proof fold over plastic sleeve which is sealed with a hologram, with the card in a Card Saver enclosed within that sealed plastic sleeve. This way you can keep it raw knowing is authentic. Or, you can send for actual grading and to protect in the case. A flat edge knife, time and care enables carefully unsticking the hologram from the fold over plastic sleeve without actually breaking the Void if Damaged hologram seal. What's left behind on the plastic sleeve from where it stuck to seal the fold over is a gummy residue noting 'Void.' Before or after you receive the card back from grading and in it's new plastic graded case, the plastic sleeve with hologram can be discarded.

If purchasing an already ebay Authenticated card, ensure the sealed hologram is not easily opened nor Void is left behind on the plastic sleeve. Hypothetically, a bad actor could replace an authentic card with a fake one, and reseal the undamaged hologram. So, be vigilant and ensure you purchase with a 15-30 day return window to review the eBay Authenticated card and fold over plastic sleeve/hologram.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Looks fake to me, as described by Brian, it has the fake craquelure look to it. eBay may still okay it. My concern is the "swinging-sixties" scenario, where they keep the money and the card for over 18 months.

Hasn't been 18 months....They got logged in on May 5th. That's when the clock starts. It hasn't even been a year yet. Please don't think I am trying to justify it. I am not. But a year and a year and a half are far different.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Hasn't been 18 months....They got logged in on May 5th. That's when the clock starts. It hasn't even been a year yet. Please don't think I am trying to justify it. I am not. But a year and a year and a half are far different.

My mistake, Bob. I stand corrected. I'm not looking to throw shade, or start any dust-ups. I like to collect some older sets of T,E and N, and am hoping to keep my future comments in those threads. I did post in this thread about how odd I think it is that eBay grades cards now. I stand by that as my personal opinion, and it's okay with me if other collectors like it.

[Exhibitman]

This is funking nuts: eBay is going to have graded cards re-submitted for verification? WTF am I doing sending in the cards for grading if I have to turn around and send them back anyway? Might as well sell them raw. Auctioneers are going to benefit far more than consumers from this, especially once PSA starts passing the costs onto the sellers for this mandatory 'service': lots of eBay sellers are going to throw in the towel and consign instead.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

hmmmm

[Deertick]

Might have missed it discussed here, but if the buyer has a P.O Box, item doesn't go to CSG, it goes directly to the customer. No "Authenticity Guarantee", even though listing has it displayed.

[Popcorn]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Might have missed it discussed here, but if the buyer has a P.O Box, item doesn't go to CSG, it goes directly to the customer. No "Authenticity Guarantee", even though listing has it displayed.

Correct but you only get 3 days if you want a item not as described return. So you better go to the po and check the item asap!

[Pat R]

Maybe that should put more effort into not letting auctions like this run to conclusion.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/19500141474...p2047675.l2557

[G1911]

They’ve expanded it to cover already graded non-sports over $2,000 as well now.

[Directly]

eBay has expanded the authenticity process to Graded cards over $2,000

[brianp-beme]

So they will give a seal of approval about the seal worthiness of a $2000+ graded card?

Brian

[Kaneen]

In the email I got today announcing this "service" is expanding, I found this line to be telling:

"No cost to you...eBay covers all the costs for a limited time"

Prepare to bend over.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Directly

eBay has expanded the authenticity process to Graded cards over $2,000

Yes. That is what we have been chatting about. I posted the link above.

[Exhibitman]

"eBay covers all the costs for a limited time."

Translation: get ready for a major new selling cost to be rammed up our oubliettes.

[Flintboy]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

"eBay covers all the costs for a limited time."

Translation: get ready for a major new selling cost to be rammed up our oubliettes.

For you yes, for the major sellers on EBay not so much. It won’t apply to them.

[Republicaninmass]

First experience....where is the card? Going to authenticator?

Almost 10 days already




May 4, 2022
5:36am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 3, 2022
4:26pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 3, 2022
11:45am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
Apr 26, 2022
3:38pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115
Apr 25, 2022
7:42pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115
Apr 25, 2022
5:48pm
DEPART POST OFFICE
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
3:34pm
USPS in possession of item
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
1:36pm
SHIPPING LBL CREATED USPS AWAITS ITEM
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
11:36am
Tracking number provided

[painthistorian]

we will no longer sell cards through e bay that require this amateur and unqualified service forced down our throats, unfortunately, the idea was good but without explanation clarity, its a crap shoot and they lost one of my expensive cards or usps lost it but we are out!

[Peter_Spaeth]

This is absurd. I just bought a freshly graded PSA card, and now before I can get it it has to be sent to PSA to be "authenticated"? WTF.

[Lorewalker]

eBay is ok with counterfeits and altered cards in holders as long as they are sealed properly! The suits who make policy decisions over there are so incredibly removed from the real world.

Maybe I am missing something but is the hobby having an issue with resealed holders and fake labels? If so then between that and the volume of altered cards in holders, seems pointless to try to collect. It would be a full time job to buy a single card.

[Republicaninmass]

Worst shipping ever. Coincidence? Still says in route to authenticator.



May 5, 2022
11:15am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 5, 2022
11:12am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 5, 2022
12:01am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 4, 2022
10:18pm
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
10:08pm
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
8:04pm
ARRIVE USPS FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
7:46pm
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
8:06am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
MONTGOMERY AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 36119
May 4, 2022
8:01am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
MONTGOMERY AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 36119
May 4, 2022
6:16am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35203
May 4, 2022
6:09am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35203
May 4, 2022
5:55am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 4, 2022
5:36am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 3, 2022
4:26pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 3, 2022
11:45am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
Apr 26, 2022
3:38pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115
Apr 25, 2022
7:42pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115
Apr 25, 2022
5:48pm
DEPART POST OFFICE
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
3:34pm
USPS in possession of item
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
1:36pm
SHIPPING LBL CREATED USPS AWAITS ITEM
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
11:36am
Tracking number provided
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[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Worst shipping ever. Coincidence? Still says in route to authenticator.



May 5, 2022
11:15am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 5, 2022
11:12am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 5, 2022
12:01am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605
May 4, 2022
10:18pm
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
10:08pm
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
8:04pm
ARRIVE USPS FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
7:46pm
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824
May 4, 2022
8:06am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
MONTGOMERY AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 36119
May 4, 2022
8:01am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
MONTGOMERY AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 36119
May 4, 2022
6:16am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35203
May 4, 2022
6:09am
ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35203
May 4, 2022
5:55am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 4, 2022
5:36am
DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 3, 2022
4:26pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
May 3, 2022
11:45am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222
Apr 26, 2022
3:38pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115
Apr 25, 2022
7:42pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115
Apr 25, 2022
5:48pm
DEPART POST OFFICE
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
3:34pm
USPS in possession of item
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
1:36pm
SHIPPING LBL CREATED USPS AWAITS ITEM
SHERWOOD, AR 72120
Apr 25, 2022
11:36am
Tracking number provided
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At least it's in the right state now. Hopefully it should be at the authenticator soon.

Hopefully it doesn't go the same route from there to you.

I clench my cheeks a little harder any time I have to rely on somebody else shipping out a product I had to ship to them first, before THEY ship it on to where I originally intended for it to go.

On a lot of International packages I'm now forced to ship to a clearinghouse for them to put the final label and paperwork on before it goes on it's way. Whether it's through Ebay...or even Stamps.com.

[GrewUpWithJunkWax]

My 1st experience purchasing with the authentication service... a 4-day USPS transit, delivered in Sarasota this morning, and 4 hours later got a notice the card failed inspection and that I was refunded.