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Old 10-20-2019, 08:37 PM
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These are really poor examples of his work; he's created more convincing material. So sad to see this garbage generating bids.

Honestly, a John Dillinger 3X5? "Hey, Mr. Public Enemy #1, will you sign this for me? I know you're in a rush, being on the run and all, but can I get a full name signature?".
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Old 10-21-2019, 01:42 PM
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These are really poor examples of his work; he's created more convincing material. So sad to see this garbage generating bids.

Honestly, a John Dillinger 3X5? "Hey, Mr. Public Enemy #1, will you sign this for me? I know you're in a rush, being on the run and all, but can I get a full name signature?".
+1 for sure, Billy!!!
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Old 10-21-2019, 01:56 PM
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Why dance around, why not just link a story or person. The reason we post here is to prevent fraud in the hobby. If we don’t expose stories of fraud, then we are bound to have more people become victims.
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Old 10-21-2019, 02:23 PM
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If you are going to use a dead person's name. You should use someone who was famous for selling autographs.
Mr Mint was 99% cards.
I do not think that these are from Jonny Fang
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Old 10-21-2019, 07:49 PM
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I think these are pretty poor examples.
FWIW the Joe Jackson looks like it used the original and first Joe Jackson to be sold in the market from Herman Darvick in the late 1980s as it's template . Does anyone else remember that sale ?
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:51 PM
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Yeah, I remember. I believe, and I might be confusing the facts, that Josh Evans got that first Jackson (there were more later) and then traded it to Barry Halper.
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Old 10-22-2019, 11:56 AM
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Yeah, I remember. I believe, and I might be confusing the facts, that Josh Evans got that first Jackson (there were more later) and then traded it to Barry Halper.
That's correct. Leland's / Josh Evans took out a full page ad in SCD to announce /advertise the puchase .
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:43 PM
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I think these are pretty poor examples.
FWIW the Joe Jackson looks like it used the original and first Joe Jackson to be sold in the market from Herman Darvick in the late 1980s as it's template . Does anyone else remember that sale ?
Of course a Joe Jackson is a poor example to choose to forge, but some of them are very good. Everyone is commenting like others have the expertise that they do. Some of the Babe Ruth’s and a number of other ones would fool over 90% of the collecting community. When I make a comment to the board it’s not for the 10 to 20 people on here who are advanced autograph collectors, it’s to the thousand other people that stroll by for advice.
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Old 10-22-2019, 08:41 AM
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Of course a Joe Jackson is a poor example to choose to forge, but some of them are very good. Everyone is commenting like others have the expertise that they do. Some of the Babe Ruth’s and a number of other ones would fool over 90% of the collecting community. When I make a comment to the board it’s not for the 10 to 20 people on here who are advanced autograph collectors, it’s to the thousand other people that stroll by for advice.
i appreciate your advice.
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Old 10-22-2019, 02:09 PM
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Of course a Joe Jackson is a poor example to choose to forge, but some of them are very good. Everyone is commenting like others have the expertise that they do. Some of the Babe Ruth’s and a number of other ones would fool over 90% of the collecting community. When I make a comment to the board it’s not for the 10 to 20 people on here who are advanced autograph collectors, it’s to the thousand other people that stroll by for advice.
Exactly.

The forgery industry is not targeting collectors like us; they direct their efforts at the gullible; the delusional autograph collector and the impulse buyer.
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