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Posted By: Peter Spaeth
Rather than clutter or offend Jay by slightly hijacking the Mastro thread, I will start a new one. Which, if any, of the following situations do people think should be disclosed by auction houses/dealers/private sellers (I assume the answer would be the same as to each class of seller but if not please explain). |
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Posted By: Steve Murray
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Posted By: Joe D.
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Posted By: Peter Spaeth
I should have mentioned on 4, does it depend on what was done to improve the card? I can see three different types of positions: one, I want to know everything even if what was done might not bother me, two, I only want to know if something I don't approve of was done, and three, as long as it graded I don't care. |
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Posted By: JK
Im hesitant to supply and answer to this as I dont want any assumptions being made about my selling practices - I sell rarely sell and as noted below, make disclosures even when arguably none are required. Answering as a buyer, I would only be upset if I did not receive disclosure as to item number 4 - and then only if it was something more than soaking off paper or erasing pencil. I probably wouldnt even be upset to learn that a wrinkle was pressed out (provided the wrinkle never came back and that the card was not otherwise altered). |
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Posted By: Cobby33
Why can't they have a service like "carfax.com" for cards, thus not making buyers rely on sellers' (mis)representations? |
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Posted By: JK
because cars have unique serial numbers that are difficult to replace. there is no way to "tag" a raw card that Im aware of. Thus, once out of a slab, who's to say whether a card submitted last year is the same one being submitted this year. |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
We all know that slabbers mess up. As long as you don't know anything was done to the card, I would chalk it up to that. If you know the card was altered, improved, or whatever other euphamism you would like to use, then sent in, you have a disclosure issue. |
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Posted By: leon
Is taking something off of the card that wasn't originally mfg on it still altering? It came from the factory without it......all you would be doing is taking something off that wasn't supposed to be there in the first place. I would say it was altering it more when whatever got put on it, after the mfg process, was done. Taking off whatever it is gets it back to original unaltered, no?.... Just a hypothetical real question.... |
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Posted By: E, Daniel
1.No |
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Posted By: Cobby33
Maybe we're screwed on tracking raw cards. But once they're graded, it should be illegal to re-serial # them, much like they do with VIN's! |
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Posted By: leon
Good question in the essence of what you ask...although I think you missed the part about what a powerwash really is...it's not washing a card it's trimming a card. I think cleaning a whole card might be a little overboard for what I would consider to be ok....a little gunk yes, the whole card.....no.....but that is a toughie for me to answer quite honestly, as I have never really thought about it. I think the extent of what you mention is more than I would be ok with ......hope that answers your question. regards |
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Posted By: E, Daniel
, why don't words mean what they suggest? |
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Posted By: leon
The "all over clean" is farther than I am comfortable with....It sounds too much like a total restoration and not just taking some gunk off.....regards |
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