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[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by 2dueces

I’m not going to debate this but as the United States tries to ban gas stoves China is building a new coal plant every 3 months using 70’s technology.

I'm really trying to bite my tongue and stay out of these ridiculous threads...but do you actually think they're trying to ban gas stoves?

We are doomed!

P.S. No need to debate anything. Let's not waste each others time.

[irv]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I'm really trying to bite my tongue and stay out of these ridiculous threads...but do you actually think they're trying to ban gas stoves?

We are doomed!

P.S. No need to debate anything. Let's not waste each others time.

Well, I haven't followed it, tbh, but I know at least one is trying to do exactly that.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...till-uses-one/
I really wish I knew how someone like this, and both sides have them, how they get into power?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfrUWwPLT48

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by irv

Well, I haven't followed it, tbh, but I know at least one is trying to do exactly that.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...till-uses-one/
I really wish I knew how someone like this, and both sides have them, how they get into power?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfrUWwPLT48

Let me reiterate, nobody is trying to ban gas stoves...not even the boogeyman that's referenced in the shittily constructed article you linked.

You can declare that exposure to natural gas causes cognitive disfunction (doesn't seem to be a controversial statement, because exposure to natural gas can also KILL you), and still have natural gas appliances without the howls of "hypocrisy" raining down upon you.

I have a gas stove. I have a propane heater in the greenhouse connected to our house. I am aware of the dangers of those appliances. I also like the convenience of those appliances. I live in a blue state, and have zero fear of anybody coming for my appliances. If they do...I promise you I'll kick up a fuss and publicly declare on social media to lay down my life for my gas stove, as other over-dramatic personalities are claiming to do.

You can also admit that guns kill people, while also owning guns. It's allowed you know.

[irv]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Let me reiterate, nobody is trying to ban gas stoves...not even the boogeyman that's referenced in the shittily constructed article you linked.

You can declare that exposure to natural gas causes cognitive disfunction (doesn't seem to be a controversial statement, because exposure to natural gas can also KILL you), and still have natural gas appliances without the howls of "hypocrisy" raining down upon you.

I have a gas stove. I have a propane heater in the greenhouse connected to our house. I am aware of the dangers of those appliances. I also like the convenience of those appliances. I live in a blue state, and have zero fear of anybody coming for my appliances. If they do...I promise you I'll kick up a fuss and publicly declare on social media to lay down my life for my gas stove, as other over-dramatic personalities are claiming to do.

You can also admit that guns kill people, while also owning guns. It's allowed you know.

Well, like I said, I haven't been following along but to say it wasn't/hasn't been talked about is also false.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/polit...ves/index.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...;sref=svjzpYTg

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by irv

Well, like I said, I haven't been following along but to say it wasn't/hasn't been talked about is also false.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/polit...ves/index.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...;sref=svjzpYTg

It was "talked about". That's the goal post now?

Please name one topic that hasn't been "talked about".

One guy, on one committee somewhere, talked about regulating safety features on certain appliances and somehow it becomes a rallying cry of outrage for triggered, pearl-clutching snowflakes everywhere.

See what I did there?

Granted, I think the "outrage" was mostly faux outrage for specifically performative and political purposes. Sadly, it's done it's job, and now I have to read from people who are somehow legitimately outraged, and declaring as a statement of fact that the government is gearing up to come for their stoves.

FYI, the supposed left leaning "Bloomberg", invests heavily in Natural Gas Futures...so it's no surprise they blew that whole "stove ban" bullshit out of proportion back in early January, which has since been given much more context.

[D. Bergin]

The most important thing with Natural Gas appliances is that it's vented properly. The biggest problem with indoor pollution regarding natural gas is when a gas stove is put in an area (say a housing/apartment complex), with no access to outdoor ventilation.

[bnorth]

We have snow today, a blizzard tomorrow, and a high of -1 on Thursday with a balmy -21 predicted for Friday morning. The snow is predicted to be around 1 1/2 to two foot total.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

It was "talked about". That's the goal post now?

Please name one topic that hasn't been "talked about".

One guy, on one committee somewhere, talked about regulating safety features on certain appliances and somehow it becomes a rallying cry of outrage for triggered, pearl-clutching snowflakes everywhere.

See what I did there?

Granted, I think the "outrage" was mostly faux outrage for specifically performative and political purposes. Sadly, it's done it's job, and now I have to read from people who are somehow legitimately outraged, and declaring as a statement of fact that the government is gearing up to come for their stoves.

FYI, the supposed left leaning "Bloomberg", invests heavily in Natural Gas Futures...so it's no surprise they blew that whole "stove ban" bullshit out of proportion back in early January, which has since been given much more context.

More than 50 California cities and counties have banned natural gas hook ups in new buildings. So you can have all the gas stoves you want, just no gas.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

More than 50 California cities and counties have banned natural gas hook ups in new buildings. So you can have all the gas stoves you want, just no gas.

Moratorium on new and existing connections for NG here in NY as well. Likley fue to demand...TOO MUCH! They cant run the pipeline from Marcallus to provide

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

More than 50 California cities and counties have banned natural gas hook ups in new buildings. So you can have all the gas stoves you want, just no gas.

That's moving the goal posts again. Lack of access to infrastructure wasn't the question up for grabs here. Most people in this country don't have access to direct natural gas hook-ups. I have two hundred gallon/lb propane tanks on my property.

Frankly I'm surprised that full neighborhood gas infrastructure is even allowed in earthquake prone areas. In a previous house we had a drunk driver run over our lawn in a giant pick-up truck during extremely wet conditions the day before we left for a vacation. We got a call a few days later from our dog sitter that a gas leak was noticed by a pedestrian walking by our house emanating from that exact same spot, and our front lawn was being dug up by a road crew to patch up the gas line going to our house.

Thank goodness somebody noticed before something much worse happened.