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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Scott Forrest
It is always tough going against the opinions of experts in the hobby. For many reasons, you might sit on an item for months or years and never examine it closely, assuming the expert would have noticed any aberrations, especially if it's an issue that you are unfamiliar with. Then you find out that the item has "problems" or is a forgery. What do you do? With auction houses it is tough, since they have already paid consignors. I wonder how many of you are proudly holding forgeries in your vaults? |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: dan mckee
Scott, check this out: A friend of mine urchased an ASA card from Alan Hager YEARS ago. It is trimmed. He noticed Alan selling on ebay as ahcollectibles. He wrote him nicely and explained the situation. After all of those years, Alan bought the card back! The buyer wasn't expecting this, it was best case scenerio. Kudos to Alan for this, he didn't have to do it. Dan. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: leon
Henry Moses took a return from me after a long time. This was about 5 years ago. I will never forget his generosity. In my mind HE is the man....regards |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Hal Lewis
Can we at least find out what cards were forged?? |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: leon
was a trimmed Mayo and Henry took it back.....and didn't have to....regards |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: John
I have just one fake, I haven’t handled a ton of these so I couldn’t tell you if it was a good one or not. Dan your dad gave it to me when I was a kid; my folks and I were buying some cards for my birthday at his house. He gave it to me and said its fake and made me promise never to give it away or sell it. Well 17yrs later and I still have it. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: identify7
Just like the Lipsett thread, but a proven fake rather than a possible trim. Id say give the expert a chance to make it right - it will be embarassing for the both of you - |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Josh K.
I think the problem here is the seller isnt returning scott's emails. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Scott Forrest
I was venting and should have said more, or nothing. These were real photo post-cards, not baseball cards per se, and they were probably printed in the '70s (I'm told). |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Scott Forrest
it's a totally different situation - for one thing, a forgery is not a real card (or whatever), while a trimmed card IS a real card. The problem here is not disputed policy, not unfriendly communication, but rather zippo communication. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: scott
as a newbie to the hobby..as much as i hate buying graded material...it seems the way to go.not that grading services don't have their flaws. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: davidcycleback
The funny thing about fakes is, once you know what they are and say what they are, they're no longer fakes. At least to you. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Darren J. Duet
The more dollars involved the higher the rate of crime--it's always a shame but a damn shame when it hits a hobby. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: dan mckee
Holy cow John! That is where that fake went! I was hoping to sell that as real! Damn Dad!!! |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Scott Forrest
These forgeries cost a lot more than their value as art objects, but not enough to break me. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: RobertS
Scott-- |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Scott Forrest
I know it would help if I posted images - problem is that would give away the seller, and I'm not interested in doing that. I already know they are forgeries, from the '70s, and I've never seen them before - I think everyone's safe. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Scott Elkins
After all the bashing Scott Forrest gave me over the forged E95 Cobb that escaped me when I first started collecting caramels a few years back (while putting together an E95 set), to find out that not one, but TWO forgeries escaped Forrest's "Expert Eye" is simply icing on my cake! At least with the Cobb that escaped me, I never really looked at it (or took it out of the four or five top loaders it was in that were taped together for shipping purposes when I received it - in fact, I even shipped it that way myself). So, it was my fault for not examining the card clearly where I could tell if it was real or not (valuable lesson learned and taken to heart by me). |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: BCD
You need VAM dollars and all is well in the south! |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Dan Koteles
no return emails, he would be exposed. you'd here a stuttering mother hubbard then, haa??? |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Anson
But, you have to ask yourself, are they REAL VAM dollars? |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Scott Forrest
Elkins, I'm not going to waste my time returning to useless debate with you after months of peace. If you want to renew a fight, do it with yourself. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Scott Elkins
Still awaiting your reply. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Texas Ted
Robert S. There was no email with your post. Please email me for a question about postcards. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: Scott Forrest
It would probably be a good idea to mention some of the characteristics common to RPPC forgeries. You're the expert on RPPC's, so I'll defer to you for the details, but certainly things to consider are thickness, lack of aging (whiteness of the back), photo quality (although this wasn't an issue with mine), and the stamped back (as opposed to printing). The stamped back is what I had the most problem with, so I've included images here of a real one and the forgery. Robert, please point out what to look for. |
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Forgeries bought from board expert
Posted By: RobertS
Scott-- |
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