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Old 07-24-2022, 11:47 AM
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Default Let's see your favorite 19th Century Cabinets!

I was lucky enough to pick this up in the most recent Heritage Auction and wants to see some of the groups favorite cabinets from the 19th century.

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Old 07-24-2022, 11:51 AM
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Very nice pick up!
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Old 07-24-2022, 12:19 PM
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That is a nice pickup!
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From the Deacon White family
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Rookie Cy Young 1891 has always been my favorite.
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Awesome Delahanty and Cyrus cabs!
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Nice pick-up on the Keefe. I had some early bids in on the Crane. Here's a team cabinet.
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Not my most valuable, but it is my favorite (the line going down the middle is the reflection of my phone).
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JC-I think your Young and my Delahanty came from the same place and have the same pinhole at the top.
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JC-I think your Young and my Delahanty came from the same place and have the same pinhole at the top.
I think your right. Looks like some kid had good taste hanging our cabinets up back in the day.
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Rookie Cy Young 1891 has always been my favorite.
What a cool card. That and his 1893 Just So are my dream cards.

It is amazing to think that a Ryder issued a rookie card of Cy Young in 1891 after he had played only a partial year in 1890. What are the chances? Did any other teams issue 1891 cabinet cards?
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What are the chances—pretty good. They issued cards of all the players on Cleveland.
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Here is another one from 1891. Hate to say this, but it got misplaced and more likely stolen from me years ago. Has never showed up in auction.
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JC and Jay, great cabs that need no explanation. Hope you find that one, JC. My mom was an antique dealer and used to say, "it's in a safe place", when she couldn't find something.

Here's a Pifer & Becker cabinet, the company that produced the photos for the 1893 Just So Cleveland cards. Here's a write up on Just So, for those that are new to this stuff. http://www.prewarcards.com/2016/10/0...o-tobacco-set/

I think a Just So McAleer has still not appeared, although this image is on the Just So ad poster found a few years back.
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What are the chances—pretty good. They issued cards of all the players on Cleveland.
Yes, I know that Ryder issued images of the 1891 Cleveland players. My question was what are the chances that Ryder would issue a set of cabinet cards for the entire Cleveland team, which, of course, included Young?

Did any other photographers or companies issue a set of cabinet cards for an 1891 team?

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Old 07-25-2022, 12:49 AM
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Ah, I see. I don't know the answer but I wouldn't be surprised if there were others.
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At first or even second glance this cabinet looks like the familiar Bacon pose that appears in so many articles or references to Sam Thompson, but i believe it to be taken in 1890 when Thompson jumped to the Player's League (then jumped back, of course) and for that purpose.
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At first or even second glance this cabinet looks like the familiar Bacon pose that appears in so many articles or references to Sam Thompson, but i believe it to be taken in 1890 when Thompson jumped to the Player's League (then jumped back, of course) and for that purpose.
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Old 07-25-2022, 06:33 AM
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When Terry first showed me this cabinet that came to him in a walk-in lot (I believe) of several Player's League cabinets, we could not identify it immediately as Sam Thompson, for it is only identified as "Thompson" on the front and "Malarial Thompson" on the back (an identification for which I take full credit and that I'm not sure if Terry has ever believed). He had it authenticated, and I eventually acquired it from him at a National in Chicago.
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Here is another one from 1891. Hate to say this, but it got misplaced and more likely stolen from me years ago. Has never showed up in auction.
Jay Cee, that is a crazy story. I hope that it turns up at some point and you are able to get it back.

How were you able to date it to 1891?
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Great stuff here! Let's keep it going.
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My recent addition to the Kansas collection.
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Some great cabinets thanks all for sharing. Let's see some more!!
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William P. "Bill" Coughlin. "Scranton Bill". "Rowdy Bill". Third baseman with the Washington Nationals in 1899 (NL) and Senators in 1901-1904 (AL). 972 hits and 159 stolen bases in 9 MLB seasons. He was known as a master of the hidden-ball trick. He was a key figure on the Detroit Tiger team that won AL pennants in 1907 and 1908. But his most productive season was 1902 with Washington as he posted an OBP of .348 with 84 runs scored and 71 RBIs in 506 plate appearances. His final seasons were with Detroit in 1904-1908.

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1874 Boston Red Stockings.
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A classic..
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This is an awesome thread, especially the Cy Youngs

Not cabinets in the traditional sense, but here are two pre-1900 two CDVs and one mounted photo, all of which likely qualify for the thread. Can’t wait to see what else pops up
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Hopefully I can cheat and post one from 1900 - Taylor Smith when he was in the Provincial League in Canada. He also played for a number of teams in the US. For his full story: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=277647

EDITED TO ADD: Between 1897 and 1900, he pitched for New York's Genuine Cuban Giants BBC. The Syracuse Journal (4/28/1897) reported: "Pitcher Smith of the Cuban Giants has a set of ivories that hoodooed the Stars yesterday and every time he smiled one of his six by nine smiles he rattled the men at the bat so that they did not plug him to the extent expected."

I love that report because it 100% matches the character that shows in the photo.
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amazing cards... that Young! I only have one 19th Century Cabinet in my collection, which serves as a stinging reminder that the Cubs were once the White Stockings.

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Those are some killer cabinets fellas.

A couple from my Kansas City collection.

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These are some of my favorite cards ever shown here…that Cy Young especially, Jay!

Here are a few of my favorites in my collection, some are self explanatory, and the Harvard one dates from 1876 of Fred Thayer who supposedly invented the catcher’s mask.
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I know it is boxing, but these Sarony mounted photos are too nice not to post:



Clockwise from top left, Jem Mace, Paddy Ryan, Jim Corbett and Jim Jeffries
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I guess this is my favorite since it is the only one I own.
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Hopefully I can cheat and post one from 1900 - Taylor Smith when he was in the Provincial League in Canada. He also played for a number of teams in the US. For his full story: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=277647
Bryan, I always like when you post that cabinet, such a great image.
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Gary that 74 is incredible!!

Love the others too... Jobu, Scott, Ryan awesome!!

These are my 2 personal favorites.
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What a great thread. Especially love seeing the Deacon White, the Kid Nichols and the 1874 Boston team.
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Not sure if it's my favorite, but this is my newest cabinet. The cabinet originated from the estate of Boston Beaneaters team member Hardy Richardson.
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Here's Big Big Dan Brouthers with his Little Big Dan Brouthers Brothers

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I received a PM from someone wanting to see some more 19th century cabinets. If I remember correctly, I was told this is a California college team, but I would have to find the auction details to be sure. As per the verso, the studio was located in San Buenaventura, Cal. which apparently is the official name of Ventura, Cal. However, Ventura College was established in 1925, so it is either a lower level school, or not a school team at all. Ventura High School was established in 1889, so perhaps it is a high school team (although these guys look older to me). Maybe it was just a local team not affiliated with a school...anyway, they did win a trophy, so I guess they were pretty good.
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Several suits.
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Her is another Detroit player I received in a trade. Unfortunately the Detroit has been scratched off the Jersey.
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1896 St. Hyacinthe team from the short-lived independent International League (not the AAA International League).
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I wasn't expecting a St Hyacinthe sighting!

The Taylor Smith photo I posted above is from his time in Canada with St. Jean but it came with two other photos, one a St Hyacinthe team composite and the other two players from the team likely at Parc Laframboise in Saint-Hyacinthe where all the local teams played starting in 1901. The uniforms read GABBC - Granite Association Base Ball Club - because the Granite Mills used to sponsor the club from its inception in 1894 until 1897. However, the photo might have been taken later than 1897 as these uniforms could be leftovers from previous seasons. The player Mannion in the composite might be George Manion of T206 fame as this photo was taken a year before his first entry in Baseball Reference (when he was 20) and he didn't live far away as he grew up in upstate New York.

I added a little more fun info to my Taylor Smith post too. And I owe a big thank you to a friend for helping me to uncover most of what I have learned about these photos.
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Another N173
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That's got to be one of the nicest Kellys out there, Michael.
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