Goldin opened a t206 piedmont pack

[chriskim]

What did I just watch? I am so confused! Goldin posted a video of pulling a t206 from a piedmont pack. I truly doubt the pack is legit at all. Why did Goldin do that???

https://youtu.be/ypsd0pgV4h0

[ullmandds]

i believe this was a contrived display.

[notfast]

It’s a guy who makes fake packs with fake cards posted by cardporn shared by goldin.

All in all, stupid.

[chriskim]

Originally Posted by notfast

It’s a guy who makes fake packs with fake cards posted by cardporn shared by goldin.

All in all, stupid.

oh.. i wasn't even know what was cardporn until now.

[rdwyer]

It seemed to me that the rice paper opened way too easy. It probably was opened before. I suspect a card was put in then the rice paper was pushed back in and not sealed.

[Eric72]

Let me preface all of this by stating the following:

I know very little about unopened tobacco packs. My observations, questions, and opinions are those of an amateur, as it pertains to this arena.

• Boxes are three dimensional objects with six sides. The video only showed four of these sides. Why did the video not show all six sides?
• The outer wrapper seemed unnaturally pliable for 100+ year old ephemera.
• The inner packaging (box with the Piedmont logo, etc) seems to have significant wear along one of the long edges. This is at 0:25 of the video.
• The edge with significant wear is also the edge formed where the two sides not shown during the opening of the video meet. This also presents at the 0:56 mark of the video.
• The inner packaging also appears to have signs of wear and handling. This includes uneven areas of light soiling on the white portions. It also includes a flap which is not seated tightly (or neatly, for that matter) into the box. In short, it has the look of a box that has been handled and opened previously; it does not look like a product which remained untouched since being factory sealed.
• When the card is first pulled (partially) from the pack, it looks too narrow for an unaltered Piedmont. I base this on pausing the video at the 0:47 mark and comparing the visible white spaces along the two vertical edges.
• The person whose hands are visible places the card back into the box. Then, they use a razor blade to cut the tax seal/stamp, with the card still inside. If there was a chance the item could be a high-grade HOF T206 card, why would someone place a razor blade that close to it? The card was already partially extracted; the prudent thing to do would be to pull it the rest of the way out before inserting a razor blade into the box.
• At the 1:08 mark, this video jumps from apparently seamless footage to something different. These last two seconds are likely irrelevant; however, it seemed worthwhile to mention the interrupted, multi-take footage.

Based on the comments above, I'm highly suspicious. I do not believe the "pack" remained unopened continuously for 110+ years, as claimed by the “unopened T206 Piedmont pack" title.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by chriskim

oh.. i wasn't even know what was cardporn until now.

Is that you, Pat (Chan)? You sound just like him, if not. And since you have a bad phone number on file AND have been back to the forum and not answered my PM, you are gone.
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