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Old 12-21-2022, 01:29 PM
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I don't really understand the Mets.

They chose not to sign Kumar Rocker due to a medical evaluation after drafting him 10th overall. He plays Indy ball and then gets drafted 3rd overall by the Rangers.

Meanwhile, Correa has a 300 million dollar deal terminated after a medical evaluation and that for some reason made the Mets jump at the chance to sign him.

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Old 12-23-2022, 04:37 AM
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It is actually pretty funny when you consider Cleveland and the Dolan Family(owners) are the 2nd richest owners in baseball and their payroll is rarely if ever in the top 10/15 teams.

And remember if an owner can afford a team they should be able to afford more payroll then the bottom teams are spending(the bottom 8 teams are spending less than 50 Million on payroll).

They should establish a base level that each must spend
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It is actually pretty funny when you consider Cleveland and the Dolan Family(owners) are the 2nd richest owners in baseball and their payroll is rarely if ever in the top 10/15 teams.

And remember if an owner can afford a team they should be able to afford more payroll then the bottom teams are spending(the bottom 8 teams are spending less than 50 Million on payroll).

They should establish a base level that each must spend
Guardians were 1 game from advancing to play Houston in the ALCS in stead of the Yankees.

2022 Payrolls:

Guardians - 66 million (4th lowest in MLB)
Yankees - 253 million (3rd highest in MLB)
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Guardians were 1 game from advancing to play Houston in the ALCS in stead of the Yankees.

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Guardians - 66 million (4th lowest in MLB)
Yankees - 253 million (3rd highest in MLB)
100% agree

My only point is where teams are not spending on payroll and/or complaining about Steve Cohen. Especially when the Guardians are the 2nd Wealthiest owner but as you show the 4th lowest payroll
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I don't really understand the Mets.

They chose not to sign Kumar Rocker due to a medical evaluation after drafting him 10th overall. He plays Indy ball and then gets drafted 3rd overall by the Rangers.

Meanwhile, Correa has a 300 million dollar deal terminated after a medical evaluation and that for some reason made the Mets jump at the chance to sign him.
Doctors saw something in Kumar's records they didn't like and ultimately, Rocker did have shoulder surgery even after Boras said he had no medical issues. Mets felt it was not worth the risk and received a compensatory draft pick.

Correas issue happened years ago and he's played his entire career with it.

2 completely different issues.
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Doctors saw something in Kumar's records they didn't like and ultimately, Rocker did have shoulder surgery even after Boras said he had no medical issues. Mets felt it was not worth the risk and received a compensatory draft pick.

Correas issue happened years ago and he's played his entire career with it.

2 completely different issues.
I think it might be buyers remorse for San Francisco and they used it as an excuse to back out
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I think it might be buyers remorse for San Francisco and they used it as an excuse to back out
Agree, it was a dumb contract.
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Doctors saw something in Kumar's records they didn't like and ultimately, Rocker did have shoulder surgery even after Boras said he had no medical issues. Mets felt it was not worth the risk and received a compensatory draft pick.

Correas issue happened years ago and he's played his entire career with it.

2 completely different issues.

Well I see one similarity between two similar situations. Mets are now walking back their agreement with Correa too.
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Not so sure the Giants found an excuse to back out. The Mets apparently are concerned over the same thing now.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...k6m-story.html
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Not so sure the Giants found an excuse to back out. The Mets apparently are concerned over the same thing now.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...k6m-story.html
Wow the plot thickens.
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Wow the plot thickens.
I had assumed it likely that the Giants realized paying $350,000,000 for a cheater with a 129 OPS+ and a lot of missed games was not a good buy and sought an excuse, but maybe they were onto something. The Twins cleared him when he got his big 3 year deal he opted out of, but that was a short term contract.
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Hmm, I wonder if the Mets are going to try to add a "Magglio Ordonez" type team opt out to the contract?
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I had assumed it likely that the Giants realized paying $350,000,000 for a cheater with a 129 OPS+ and a lot of missed games was not a good buy and sought an excuse, but maybe they were onto something. The Twins cleared him when he got his big 3 year deal he opted out of, but that was a short term contract.

Teams have always had long term concerns about Correa. That's why the best deal he could find last year was basically a "prove-it" deal with Minnesota.

While he played well for the Twins, he still missed 26 games. His offensive numbers were decent, but they they weren't exactly mind-blowing.

I've never been convinced "Winning" the Carlos Correa Sweepstakes, wouldn't end up being a misnomer.
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