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Posted By: Jimi
I thought he'd pitch until he was 50, so I was shocked when I learned today that he is retiring. One has to wonder, would you put him in as one of the top 5 pitchers of all time? 3.18 ERA, I believe with 355 wins in the steroids era? |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
He had a full season 1.56 ERA in 1994, and it ballooned the next year to 1.63! 1.56 is astonishing for a starting pitcher. He slowed down when he got older but that's natural. The poetic justice is that he retired with one more win then Clemens. |
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Posted By: Brian T.
You can say all you want about the overgenerous strike zone, but he is an absolute lock for the HOF. His defense prowess alone almost qualifies him and is also an often under-discussed part of his game. Obviously, it wasn't overlooked though - given the number of gold gloves he won (18 if memory serves). Full disclosure: I am not a Braves fan, nor would I collect the baseball cards of any modern day pitcher... but if I did, it would be him. |
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Posted By: Frank L.
I believe he will definitely be inducted. I am a Braves Fan(dating back to late 1960's when I lived in West Palm Beach, Fla as a kid). Even through the tough 70's, kept up the Braves fandom. Phil Niekro, Mike Lum, Buzz Capra, then 80's with Bob Hoerner, Dale Murphy. They finally made it big in 1990's with the pitchers you mentioned. |
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Posted By: Rhys
I would argue that had Maddux pitched 100 years ago, he would have won 500 games or more. He is very durable and his numbers statistically (I mean with standard deviations and stuff) would have made him a 500 game winner over a similar length career had he pitched in the days of a 3 man rotation like the deadball guys. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
Obviously, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. A better debate might be if he'll be the first to get in with 100% of the vote. |
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Posted By: joe
I am a Detroit fan, but this is one great pitcher. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
If Hank Aaron can't get 100% nobody will. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
The vote percentage is part happenstance-- who is on the ballot, who is voting, etc. I believe the top vote getters ever were Seaver and Ripken. Fine and deserving HOFers, but no one's argued they were the best two players ever. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Any voter who doesn't put Maddux on their ballot in his first year of eligibility should not be allowed to vote for the Hall of Fame. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
Even if the voter is Jesus? |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Even if the voter is Ivan DeJesus. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
You could have also said Jesus Alou. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Too obvious. |
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Posted By: J Levine
I am a big Phillies fan but I would always follow Maddux...one of my baseball highlights was watching him pitch at Dodger Stadium and then running into him in the front office after the game...total gentleman and a great pitcher. |
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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie
IMO, Maddux was the best pitcher of his era. He dominated for a good stretch and was simply the best spot pitcher I ever saw. There are too many greats before him to put him in the top 5 but I don't think top 10 of all time is a stretch! |
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Posted By: Ricky Y
As a SF Giants fan...I thank him for retiring..this gives us a chance to at least win 5 or 6 more games per year..he could beat the Giants just by standing on the mound and not throwing a pitch.. |
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Posted By: Andrew S.
Maddux and Glavine are shoe-ins, but Smoltz won't see the Hall. Not an impressive enough record. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Smoltz is a LOCK for the hall of fame. |
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Posted By: Andrew S.
Dan, why is he a lock? Because of his World Series appearances? |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
210 wins, 154 saves, 3000+ strikeouts. |
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Posted By: S Gross
Speaking of him like an vintage pitcher, I agree. |
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Posted By: Rob L
Maddux was awesome with the stats to back it up. Where would all rank Randy Johnson? The "Ks" are tremendous and he will make or pass 300 wins this year. |
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Posted By: jdrum
Count me among those who think he's a lock as well. |
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Posted By: Richie
Dave, Why wont he not go in as a Atlanta Brave. All his success came as a Brave. I am not sure amount of years. But has to be 80% of his career he was in Brave uniform. Definite Brave. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I think there's no doubt Maddux will go in as a Brave. |
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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
The 1932 Yankees had 10 HOFers on their roster...... |
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