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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
There have been a few threads recently about buying trimmed or altered cards. Just how bad of a card would you have in your collection? Would you take the P-F card in your collection because it's what you collect or because it's a filler or because it's rare? What reason? |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
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Posted By: john/z28jd
Because i collect Pittsburgh players from the OJ set i wouldve paid at least $200 for that Beckley.For cards i really want id pay alot for OJs because specific cards dont always come up often but just a random player(common) i wouldnt pay more than $50 in that condition. |
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Posted By: zach
the rarer the card to me the more I will pay and the more I won't care about the condtion. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
Spot is actually under the top layer of the card, and is brown, and shaped like--an ink splash. Guess it happened between the two photographic processes...anyhway, I'd been wanting one of THEM for a long time, too. |
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Posted By: joe brennan
I aquired this from a fellow board member and I think its a great looking card and very appealing to me. Doesnt matter a bit to me that it might be trimmed? LOL. I treasure it as much as any card in my collection. |
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Posted By: joe brennan
I know we,ve touched on this in a few posts. I really feel that if the cards come back ungraded and trimmed but they are nice looking cards and they are going to stay in my collection, I dont care if they were trimmed. I'm not going to try and decieve any one with them and alot of trimmed cards are not noticeable with the naked eye. SO, if I buy some trimmed cards that I'm happy with I feel I am accomplishing 2 things. Adding some beauties to my collection and maybe saving some other buyer from buying a trimmed card that is not disclosed later on. ANyone have any thoughts on this? |
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Posted By: jay behrens
The only condition requirements for my collection are no heavy crease thru the face and a legible name. Chunks of the card can be missing, especially when it comes to rare, expensive cards. Besides, beat up cards have character that a high grade example lacks. |
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Posted By: joe brennan
Nice sheckard Jay. What issue is it? Sorry for the ignorance, but its the only way I can learn. Thanks Joe |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
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Posted By: JimCrandell
I would never buy a trimmed or altered card. |
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Posted By: Peter Spaeth
Is there a grading service that grades based on "character" not condition? Of course it couldn't slab the card because that would be uncool, but maybe it could make a notation on the back of a cardsaver or something. |
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
JIM, If you are not willing to buy anything less than a 7... that means there are many pre-war sets that you will never own a card of. |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Rhett, |
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Posted By: Peter Spaeth
Dav, you appear to be suffering from a medical condition known as Mike Baker's Disease -- defined as an undue fascination with high grade slabbed cards. It is a psychiatric disorder, listed in DSM-IV under the obsessive compulsive disorders (although there are those who claim it belongs under narcissistic disorders). There is a cure, however. Sell all your cards and replace them with low grade cards -- creases are mandatory (sorry, I know it sounds painful). For a while you will feel ill, but eventually you will learn to love them. You not only will be cured, you will have much more money to spread around. |
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Posted By: joe brennan
Some of us dont have the option of buying just PSA 8 cards for our collection. Even if the issue isnt rare. Thats a statement that will definately change my opinion of your views towards my collection. I think we had another person on this board at one time that turned his nose up at any thing less than auction quality material. Glad you dont have any interest in the cards that I collect, It will be one less person bidding against me. But I sure would like to get you in a poker game and see if your superiority holds up against mine there. |
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Posted By: Paul Lehr
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Posted By: Peter Spaeth
The original question asked what is the lowest condition card people would buy. Jim just answered the question, he didn't intimate that he was "superior" or criticize anyone else's collection or look down on people who only have the resources to buy lesser grade cards. Methinks his response was taken the wrong way. |
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Posted By: Bottom of the Ninth
Hey Joe, |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Leon inadvertantly took this down as I had mistakenly posted it twice but what I think I said is that there is nothing wrong with collecting lower grade cards although I like high grade cards. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
The card is a Breisch-Williams e107 |
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Posted By: Craig Lipman
One of the worst condition raw cards I ever bought. Now it's one of my favorite cards. |
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Posted By: William Brumbach
I had a Goudey 4-in-1 and a T202 with a side panel split off I sold recently that were pretty nasty and still have a '54 Topps Spahn that is pretty tore up but this is the probably the lowest graded card in my actual collection that I could post here. |
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Posted By: joe brennan
I think that this post will be my exit from the forum also. |
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Posted By: Bottom of the Ninth
Joe, |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Greg, you've made me laugh now twice about that departure.... |
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Posted By: bcornell
Here's one that, thankfully, is beyond the realm of grading, since E125's are too big and too oddly shaped for holders (note: this is not a challenge to GAI. Please don't.). Wiltse was still not verified when Lipset's encyclopedia came out 20 years ago, so I assume it's one of just a few. |
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Posted By: zach
thats very cool...nice to know that it was once in the Bill C. collection lol. |
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Posted By: Mike P.
I really hate to hijack this thread with a seemingly dumb and off topic question but I have been wondering this for quite some time. Bill, is that Mr. McFeely (of Mr. Rogers fame) on your avatar image? |
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Posted By: bcornell
Nope, it's Bill Klem, HOF umpire. You're ejected, Mike! |
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Posted By: Mike P.
I hold my head in shame! I should have known that after reading the vintage card umpire thread! In my defense, with that small avatar there is a resemblance. Thanks for the answer, now I can sleep better tonight! |
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Posted By: tbob
You'll never own an E98 set, an E94 set, a D311 set or a T212-1, 2 or 3 set. In fact you won't ever be able to own most of the cards in any of the sets because they just don't exist in the slab grade you want. If you could pry Scott Mosley's cards from his hands (no chance) you would have a good go at the E98 and if you robbed Mark Macrae at gunpoint you might have a decent start on the Obaks and D311, but E94s? Fuggetaboudit. |
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Posted By: Greg Ecklund
Catfish! |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
tbob, |
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Posted By: T206Collector
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Posted By: J Levine
Here... |
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Posted By: Ed McCollum
Trimmed to alter condition...wouldn't buy it. |
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Posted By: Ben
Quite a beater as you can see...Personally, I find it sorta charming. I've always enjoyed collecting raw/low grade cards like this one. Nice thread guys. |
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Posted By: David Vargha
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Posted By: FYS
"I would never buy a trimmed or altered card. |
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Posted By: Bob
"This statement reminds me of one Adam J. Moraine :>)" |
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Posted By: Bottom of the Ninth
One of the many differences between Adam M and Jim C is that Jim HAS the means to buy what he wants. |
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Posted By: Jim Crandell
FYS, |
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Posted By: joe maples
I know this is a 1953 Glendale but Houtteman is scarce, traded for this years ago, graded a 10 by SGC, has staple hole in card, besides the normal wear of the Hotdog cards. |
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Posted By: FYS
"FYS, |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
...I can smell a vaya con dios coming..... |
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Posted By: misunderestimated
But sometimes the option isn't there. ... Nothing wrong with what Jim wrote (unless you are looking to be offended). "To each his own." Frankly, we should be happy he probably won't be bidding against us for a stained '14 CJ Matty, a trashed Pete Browning OJ that looks its age, or a Cuban Oscar Charleston Aguilatas with bug holes .... |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Didn't Biz Mackey go on to have a rap career and a hit call "Just a Friend"? |
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Posted By: Glen V
I collect the P-F cards when I can't find/afford a nicer one, which is usually the case for tough types. |
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