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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170166540560&ssPageName=STRK:MEBOFF:IT&ih=007 |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Anthony
PGC even added a warning about fraudulent 1930's Goudeys on their website... |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: ItsOnlyGil
Since they have never graded an authentic Goudey, isn't that sufficient proof to have this auction shut down? |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
Gil - if I was running the auction site, it certainly would be. Alas, ebay has it's own way of working and all I can do is supply them with information, which I did almost as soon as the auction was first listed on Tuesday. I hope they decide to shut it down before the seller accepts any of the offers that were submitted to him. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: leon
I have reported this too....as I told Matt yesterday. I think my inside guy at Ebay is doing several folks jobs though. For the record I generally will report every one of these scams that good pointed out on the board...as well as many others I find myself. Scammers should be punished..... |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
Uh Oh.... |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: JK
The seller that everyone has been accusing of being a scammer has been around buying and selling cards on ebay for years (ebay member since 2001). Ive even lost out on a few big items to this guy. Im pretty sure he is a collector and not a dealer. What makes you so sure he is intentionally trying to scam someone? He has three negs in six years and over a thousand positive feedbacks. Is it not possible that he bought the cards now stated to be fakes and listed them without any knowledge that they were fakes? |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: leon
Regardless if the seller has been on ebay 100yrs, he was informed about the fakes, and did nothing about it. He should have at least done something. If I got emails about fakes I was selling I would at least look into it. Sorry, you lose on this one....imo.... |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
Since he has been around that long, he must know the grading companies in question are disreputable. Even if he had never heard of them before, if he took a moment to go to their web page before he posted their items for sale, he would see in big bold font that they acknowledge Goudeys slabbed by them are reprints. On top of that he was contacted with this information. I see no defense for the seller here. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Anonymous
The seller has outbid me on several Cobb cards over the pass couple years |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Mark T
He bought a few things from me in the past so i still have his info. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: JK
Leon, |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: leon
Maybe you need to read my post again.....where did I say this? |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
I think he's referring to me calling him a scammer in another thread. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Jim VB
Matt, |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Mark T
Email address but i don't think i should post it here. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
I emailed PGC exactly this question and they responded that every Goudey they have ever graded was a reprint. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: JK
Leon, |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
Josh - maybe I'm naive, but I can't accept the premise that a seller who has 800 feedback on ebay, seemingly all from pricey vintage cards, doesn't know there's a difference between PSA and PGC. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Bill
I agree with JK. but the auction is over now. someone bought the cards. nothing we can do now. ppl on this forum label scammers all the time and are very opinionated. ebay has always been a "at buyers risk site" so nothing will change that.... get over it guys. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
"ebay has always been a "at buyers risk site" so nothing will change that" |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: JK
"Buyer's risk is only beyond the representation of the seller." |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
Josh - I knew that was going to get confused in my post. I'm not saying this seller is legally responsible - I was addressing Bill's blanket statement that all the onus is on the buyer in all cases. I just think this seller is slimy. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: JK
Matt, |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: brian
"If you are a good seller then you should respond to all inquiries no matter what a buyer may ask." |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Mark T
What do you consider an insulting question? |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: brian
"What do you consider an insulting question?" |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Mark T
I would call them in a New York minute!!!! |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: leon
I am just curious if you get a lot of those type questions and from what type of auctions? I am not a big time ebayer but do have over 1350 total feedback....I can't recall any (though I must have had at least 1) questions like that....I doubt the questions asked of this seller fall into the crazy category.....Like I said before if someone told me that a particular graded card wasn't good and that the grading company admitted it, I would at least look into it...but that's just me... |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: brian
Leon, they are questions about vintage sportscard auctions and every one of those individuals are on my blocked bidders list until the end of time. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matthew S. Moore
This guy sounds like a nutcase to me. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
The buyer asked me to post this to the forum for input: |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
Nobody has any suggestions for how the guy should handle the situation? Knowing that some of the cards are fakes, he is no longer interested. How should he handle this? |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: JK
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: leon
The listing was removed. Please have the buyer contact me. I think I can help on this one.....And, yes, Ebay will, and already has, done something on this one....regards |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
leon - I asked the buyer to contact you. I would say that ebay dropped the ball bigtime on this one, since the seller was ready to pay on Thursday and if ebay has "done something" they still havn't contacted him several days later. Only our forum saved the seller from getting ripped off. |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: leon
I just sent you an email......but since the auction now says: |
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ALERT: Active Ebay Auctions (Fake Slabbed Ruths and CJs)
Posted By: Matt
I agree Leon - at this point, the buyer is in the clear with ebay. |
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