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Old 03-23-2022, 11:03 AM
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Default Fake Ruth on hibid

This came across the facebook feed today.

I guess the cracked screwdown is fine for a reprint. Youd think they would give at least the impression that someone cared more than that about such an expensive card.

It's bad when even the scammers are just putting in minimal effort.
https://hibid.com/lot/114368007/old-...k3yja6nNjuWCEo

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Old 03-23-2022, 11:51 AM
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that is funny but i am sure if they ebay it they will sell it for something

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Old 03-23-2022, 12:29 PM
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I got offered a Waddell by a scammer in the BST using that same table! Are all scammers the same person?
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:51 PM
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I got offered a Waddell by a scammer in the BST using that same table! Are all scammers the same person?
Doubt it's a table, more likely a light box setup -

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Doubt it's a table, more likely a light box setup -
You guys are amazing at figuring out these crooks' dirty tricks!
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:04 AM
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A light box is somewhat standard for small auction houses that sell more dimensional stuff.
It's a nice way of assuring the item is properly lit and has a background that doesn't obscure the items. (Like leaving the scanner lid up so cards get a nice black background - except for cards like 71 Topps where that black background would make it harder to see.

Like any tool, the results vary depending on the photographer, and it can be used with different degrees of dishonesty. Or simply to overcome the limitations of a venue.
One of the days during my very brief employment by a pro photographer He showed me how he used a polarized filter to boost the contrast of the photos he sent to the printed card sales ad paper. Their system made most cars look bad because the images were low contrast by adding contrast his looked normal.

And to think I got paid to learn that.
The prior week I got paid to help install the tonneau cover. Which mostly meant handing him the screwdriver when he needed it.
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Old 03-24-2022, 01:41 PM
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Oh my! Someone paid $1065 for that card...
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Oh my! Someone paid $1065 for that card...
On the bright side for the buyer, it still has to go through the authentication process with CSG, right? I can see a lot of people taking chances on cards like this now going forward. All they have to do is get lucky and find one authentic card like this to make the hassle worthwhile.

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On the bright side for the buyer, it still has to go through the authentication process with CGS, right? I can see a lot of people taking chances on cards like this now going forward. All they have to do is get lucky and find one authentic card like this to make the hassle worthwhile.
No - this was on Hibid not ebay... he/she is screwed...unless credit card payment maybe...
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No - this was on Hibid not ebay... he/she is screwed...unless credit card payment maybe...
OMG! You are right, wasn't paying attention. Thanks for correcting me.

Can still see where questionable things like this that are listed on Ebay going forward may get more chance takers because of the new authentication process.
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No - this was on Hibid not ebay... he/she is screwed...unless credit card payment maybe...
I am sure everything will be fine
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Well the description did, at least, call out the dubious authenticity....

"Vintage OLD RARE Original ?
1914 RED Baltimore News Babe Ruth
Card Came From a large collection
Uknown age Real ? Possible Age Reprint ?
Wiscobidcom llc has not verifed any info on this card please make sure to view all photos before bidding


Sold as is"


What amazes me, is that even with a description like that people still bid.
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What amazes me is an auctioneer thinks a bullshit statement like that indemnifies him from selling a counterfeit.
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Looks like a floor panel
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