Mathewson Vs. Johnson

[Leon]

I agree there is no obligation to name the Most Games Won in a Year Award. It is named what it is because it makes the most sense. And I like Johnson as a collectible, a lot. And he has the nicest grandson on Earth too!! All that and The Big Train could dress too. But it doesn't change the fact (most wins in a lifetime by a lot) on what is the best name for the most wins in a season. And to get back to topic, Johnson has seemed to be collected right above Matty but not by much. And different card issues can easily have Matty going for more.

Originally Posted by barrysloate

There is also a name associated with the batting titles: It's the Tony Gwynn Award for the NL, and I believe the Rod Carew Award for the AL (I know they aren't commonly used). Both were exemplary hitters who won multiple batting titles, but nobody would confuse them with Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Rogers Hornsby, or Ted Williams. One is not obligated to pick the best player ever to name an award.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Leon

I've always thought Walter and Matty were at the same level of collector's appeal, a notch below the big boys: Ruth, Cobb, Jackson, Robinson, who else? Mantle, maybe? Wagner, perhaps a bit because of the T-206 mystique? And that Barr-Farnman postcard is one of the WaJo greats, it was a special treat to see that set in person last year. Any idea what the p.p.c.c. (or o?) stands for? And is it Farnman or Farnham?

[Leon]

Hi Hank
It is actually a real photo used as a sample to order the postcards. It was a salesman's sample book, at auction, for ordering the postcards... or the photos, actually. This (regular sized but enlarged here) business card should help with the initials. It is on the back page.

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

I've always thought Walter and Matty were at the same level of collector's appeal, a notch below the big boys: Ruth, Cobb, Jackson, Robinson, who else? Mantle, maybe? Wagner, perhaps a bit because of the T-206 mystique? And that Barr-Farnman postcard is one of the WaJo greats, it was a special treat to see that set in person last year. Any idea what the p.p.c.c. (or o?) stands for? And is it Farnman or Farnham?

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Leon

Hi Hank
It is actually a real photo used as a sample to order the postcards. It was a salesman's sample book, at auction, for ordering the postcards... or the photos, actually. This (regular sized but enlarged here) business card should help with the initials. It is on the back page.

Incredible piece, including the business card. Have you ever had one of the postcards?

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Incredible piece, including the business card. Have you ever had one of the postcards?

Have never seen one, wonder if any were actually produced.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Bicem

Have never seen one, wonder if any were actually produced.

Maybe not. I saw some--perhaps a set--at the Library of Congress many years ago, but those could have been photos, too, the copyright exemplars.

[clydepepper]

Wow!

It was enjoyable and very cool just to witness that spread of information!

OUTSTANDING!



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[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by Leon

I agree there is no obligation to name the Most Games Won in a Year Award. It is named what it is because it makes the most sense. And I like Johnson as a collectible, a lot. And he has the nicest grandson on Earth too!! All that and The Big Train could dress too. But it doesn't change the fact (most wins in a lifetime by a lot) on what is the best name for the most wins in a season. And to get back to topic, Johnson has seemed to be collected right above Matty but not by much. And different card issues can easily have Matty going for more.

Great point, except the Cy Young award is not for most wins in a season, it is for the best pitcher. The two are often not synonymous.

[Leon]

My mistake, it is best pitcher and not most wins. Blame Gabby, he told me what it was . And the photo album was 2 bucks !! I paid a little more for it so probably overpaid as usual.

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Great point, except the Cy Young award is not for most wins in a season, it is for the best pitcher. The two are often not synonymous.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Leon

My mistake, it is best pitcher and not most wins. Blame Gabby, he told me what it was . And the photo album was 2 bucks !! I paid a little more for it so probably overpaid as usual.

Boy, did you ever screw up on this one, Leon: you could have had 25 postcards instead for only a buck and a quarter and saved 75 cents. Even better, you could have ordered 25 WaJos and 25 team PCs for just fifty cents more and bought yourself a house a hundred years later! Instead, you're stuck with that stupid photo album! Call me next time, will you?