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Old 06-12-2014, 11:48 PM
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The answers to all of these questions are players in the Old Judge set. I have done this before and, since there seem to be a lot of new Old Judge collectors, I thought I'd start again. These questions all relate to no hitters.

1. He threw the first no hitter in NL history.
2. He threw the second perfect game in NL history.
3. These two pitchers threw no hitters on consecutive days in 1880.
4. He was the first Brooklyn pitcher with multiple no hitters
5. He was the first catcher to catch three no hitters

After these are answered anyone is free to add their own trivia questions. Enjoy!
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Old 06-13-2014, 12:05 AM
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This looks like fun! Thank you, OJ

My 19th century baseball history knowledge isn't great, but I'll get the ball rolling here.

1. George Bradley threw the first N.L. no hitter on July 15, 1876
3. Larry Corcoran and James Francis "Pud" Galvin on August 19th and 20th of 1880
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4. Ok, I was way off here. Carl Erskine was the first Brooklyn pitcher in the National League to throw multiple no hitters, but William "Adonis" Terry threw two with the old Brooklyn Grays, who were in the American League.

Credit to Ted Z for answering this correctly.
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1......George Bradley

2......Lee Richmond or Monte Ward

3......Larry Corcoran & Pud Galvin

4......Adonis Terry

5...... ?


Here's my favorite 19th Century No-Hitter pitcher......
Ted Breitenstein


Who pitched a No-Hitter on his 1st official start (Oct 4, 1891)

Then, Ted pitched a 2nd No-Hitter on April 22, 1898


TED Z
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5. The first catcher to catch three no hitters was Silver Flint. All three no hitters were as a member of the Chicago White Stockings.

One of his Old Judge cards:



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1......George Bradley

2......Lee Richmond or Monte Ward

3......Larry Corcoran & Pud Galvin

4......Adonis Terry

5...... ?


Here's my favorite 19th Century No-Hitter pitcher......
Ted Breitenstein


Who pitched a No-Hitter on his 1st official start (Oct 4, 1891)

Then, Ted pitched a 2nd No-Hitter on April 22, 1898


TED Z
I completely forgot about the Brooklyn Grays, Ted. I looked at National League teams only. Good job on Adonis Terry.
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Good job Bill and Ted!
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It was an excellent adventure.

And thank you for the questions. I'll see about coming up with some OJ era questions of my own. It's an era that I'd like to learn a lot more about.
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4. Ok, I was way off here. Carl Erskine was the first Brooklyn pitcher in the National League to throw multiple no hitters, but William "Adonis" Terry threw two with the old Brooklyn Grays, who were in the American League. Credit to Ted Z for answering this correctly.
The Brooklyn Grays/Bridegrooms were in the American Association, and transferred to the National League in time for the 1890 season after winning the AA pennant in 1889. The Bridegrooms won the NL pennant in 1891, thereby becoming the only major league team to win pennants in two different leagues in consecutive years. The team soon became known as the Dodgers (as well as the Superbas and later the Robins), and is the same franchise that Carl Erskine played for.
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The Brooklyn Grays/Bridegrooms were in the American Association, and transferred to the National League in time for the 1890 season after winning the AA pennant in 1889. The Bridegrooms won the NL pennant in 1891, thereby becoming the only major league team to win pennants in two different leagues in consecutive years. The team soon became known as the Dodgers (as well as the Superbas and later the Robins), and is the same franchise that Carl Erskine played for.
The Boston Reds won the Players League in 1890 and the American Association in 1891.
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The Boston Reds won the Players League in 1890 and the American Association in 1891.
Good catch! I stand corrected.
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Good catch! I stand corrected.
As do I. Thank you

I'm an absolute sponge when it comes to baseball history, but if there's one area I could really use more education, it's Baseball history from the 19th century.

Netflix is losing its PBS programming at the end of the month, so I'm planning on watching Ken Burns' Baseball at least once more all the way through, if not twice. Then I'll just buy the DVD set.
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Once I get my Larry Corcoran card from Legendary, I'll post a scan of him
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Once I get my Larry Corcoran card from Legendary, I'll post a scan of him
John, that Legendary copy may be the nicest Corcoran N172 existent. It is an absolutely beautiful Fb! Congrats on a nice pickup, albeit not cheap.
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John, that Legendary copy may be the nicest Corcoran N172 existent. It is an absolutely beautiful Fb! Congrats on a nice pickup, albeit not cheap.
Definitely the nicest one I've ever seen. I have higher grade ones, but none with a picture like that. The fact that it's a tough London card makes it that much more special
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1......George Bradley

2......Lee Richmond or Monte Ward

3......Larry Corcoran & Pud Galvin

4......Adonis Terry

5...... ?


Here's my favorite 19th Century No-Hitter pitcher......
Ted Breitenstein


Who pitched a No-Hitter on his 1st official start (Oct 4, 1891)

Then, Ted pitched a 2nd No-Hitter on April 22, 1898


TED Z

Furthermore......Ted Breitenstein pitched a No-Hitter and a "Perfect" game in his rookie Major League start for the St Louis Browns on Oct 4, 1891
vs. Louisville Colonels. Ted faced just 27 batters. He walked one batter, who was erased by a pick-off play (or a double-play).

His 2nd No-Hitter was with the Cincinnati Reds (vs. Pittsburg Pirates) on April 22, 1898.

During World War I, Breitenstein was the Director of an athletic camp especially organized for Army and Navy servicemen.


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Hey guys....I have searched for a 19th Century card of Ted. I don't think there is one....does anyone here know of one ?



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99 Sporting News Supplements M101-1-1 is all that's listed.

source: Beckett Baseball Card Alphabetical Checklist #11
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