Ken Boyer

[carlsonjok]

I've been working on a signed 1963 Fleer set for at least 7 years and I have autographed copies of 63 of the 66 cards in the set. One of the three I am missing is Ken Boyer. I see a listing on eBay for a signed Ken Boyer card, but I am skeptical that it is authentic, but I am not an expert, or even a competent amateur for that matter. It doesn't anything like the to PSA authenticated autos on eBay.

Here is the listing:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ken-Boyer-S...o/254587785540

And here is a photo:



I'd love to snag number 64, but I don't want to get out ahead of my skis. Any feedback?

[Republicaninmass]

First instinct says no. I've only had a few boyers.


Short and sweet, but still neat is his trademark.

The slant seems off, and the "ye" doesnt sit right with me

[JRS123490]

First instinct is no as well. Boyer is tough. I would avoid especially since us_caine has targeted Boyer and flooded the market with stuff.

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by JRS123490

First instinct is no as well. Boyer is tough. I would avoid especially since us_caine has targeted Boyer and flooded the market with stuff.

LOL. I got burned by us_caine on Boyer. To make a short story long, I got out way ahead of my skis and bought a '63 Fleer Boyer from him. I sent it in for authentication and, of course, it failed. Luckily, he let me return it for a refund. All's well that ends well, right?

Not so much. About 6 months later the same card (it was signed with a red pen, so no mistaking it) comes up for auction again. I reported it as a fake to eBay, but they didn't take it down.

Added in edit: Thank you both for the feedback.

[JRS123490]

I checked completed listings on Worthpoint, and sure enough. Saw the same card listed and sold twice. Glad to know they are at least failing PSA now. That's kind of a relief.

Editing to say, I specifically looked to see whether the card you posted originated from him/to see if it had been sold on Ebay in the past, and stumbled upon the card you mentioned signed in red ballpoint. Small world.

[Klrdds]

I got about 50 Boyer autographs in the 70s and early 80s during spring trading when he was with the Cardinals as a coach , advisor and manager.
I say no to this one . The last name flow and character formation especially the
“yer” doesn’t look right . Not a common autograph but findable on 3x5s and for a bit of a premium on single signed baseball and 8x10s but baseball cards are truly rare and treasured by collectors .

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by Klrdds

Not a common autograph but findable on 3x5s and for a bit of a premium on single signed baseball and 8x10s but baseball cards are truly rare and treasured by collectors .

I've actually seen one authenticated Boyer on a '63 Fleer. It was part of a lot of 65 signed cards that was auctioned off by an auction house. The lot was then auctioned of individually by Greg Morris Cards. I bid on a number of cards and won three: Lou Clinton, Vada Pinson, and Willie Mays. Not knowing the rarity, I bid up to $100 on Boyer but was outbid by a mile, with the final bid being over $160 before adding in the buyer's premium.

That was three years ago, and this is the first one I've seen since then.