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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: dan mckee
This guys sports ads are fakes, careful friends. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Worst dealer on ebay...I turned him over to ebay a couple years back for listing magazine cutouts as "Signs" and they didn't stop him from doing it. This was after I asked him to stop doing it and he wrote back a not so nice reply. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Rob Dewolf
It's pretty amazing the frequency in which this guy repeatedly lists obvious fakes or "misrepresented" items. He would have trouble keeping a spot at a flea market, yet eBay continues to turn a blind eye. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Here's another seller with a crapload of fakes. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: David Smith
Dan, |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Yep....there's a bunch of them out there now. Ebay is truly the wild west and you better know your stuff or you are going to get burned. I've turned in a bunch of people who only sell this kind of crap and ebay doesn't care....yet I can list a 1950s cap gun and it gets canned by ebay because it doesn't have a red tip in the end of it. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: davidcycleback
Reminds me of the Cheers episode where Cliff's long lost dad said he had to leave the country |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: David Smith
Dan, |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Dan Bretta
I relisted my cap gun with a skittles package rolled up and stuffed into the barrel, and it sold with no problems. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Rich Mueller
Actually I believe 2 of the 3 sellers are the same person using a different eBay ID. If you do a thorough Google search and some eBay Marketplace searches for similar items, you can discover a little more history. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: barrysloate
You can tell that one is fake from a trolley car away! |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Dave Williams
How can you tell it is fake? |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: barrysloate
I've had and seen many originals and the color lithography is bright and crisp. Fakes tend to be less distinct and have that washed out look. You need to see an original so that you know what they are supposed to look like. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: dan mckee
Rich I am very interested in the information you have. I have filed an FBI report and tried to state the urgency because of the amount and the decent workmanship of these fakes. You are correct! All within driving distance I believe. Indiana, Michigan and Ohio. Anything I can do to help/ Please let me know. I never heard back from the FBI. These sellers are burning good collectors as well and as stated above in this thread. It is very sad that ebay just doesn't care. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: davidcycleback
The collector's key for something like the Tuxedo Mathewson is that it is so rare and expensive, you |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: dan mckee
Well put David |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Matt
This isn't the trolley car version, but it's real. As you can see, there is a big color difference. Authentic ones are much more vibrant. The fakes colors are not accurate and they do not appear to be printed on the correct paper stock. It's ridiculous that they're out there being passed off as real and ebay's allowing it. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Dave
After reading this post about the fake Tuxedo sign I started making some phone calls around town here. I'm pretty sure one or all of these sellers sets up at Ceasars Creek and turtle Creek flea markets every weekend. I once approached one of them in 2003 and told him he was selling unauthentic signs and photos. I was lucky to get out of there without being mobbed. As soon as I showed him why the particular photo was a fake he jumped my sh*t like the world was about to end. I told him if the piece he had was real that it was worth thousands, and that as far as I know there were only 3 or 4 photos like this one that were original. then other flea marketers came over to see what the yelling was about and they joined in to swear that the items they sell are "as real as they can be" I now know these guys ( one is a woman) by sight now. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: leon
You may post anything that you know of that is fraudulent with names, addresses, phone numbers, pictures.....whatever you want. The only rule is that you will need to put your full name by the posting or a good email address. Make sure you are correct too as you can be held legally liable for what you say.....Otherwise, go for it...It can only help the hobby.....best regards |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Dave
thanks for the information Leon. I'll make sure I can back up anything I post. I'm not sure if I've bought any fake items yet on ebay, but I have bought a fair share of altered cards. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
Jackwads set up here in Louisville at flea markets. Cracker Jack reprints, signs and posters all reprints, etc. SAME CRAP. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: dstudeba
Matt - |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Here's another fake -another one from the South Carolina area...probably a protege of Faye's Southern Memories. |
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Tuxedo and Trolley ads are NO good!
Posted By: dstudeba
Good tips Dan. Another one with the calendars is to check the year and the days of the week. Sometimes the forger is so sloppy they put the wrong year calendar on and the days of the week don't match! |
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