3rd Annual Vintage Trade Show and Get Together

[Rhotchkiss]

Andrew and I are pleased to announce that the 3rd Annual Vintage Trade Show and Get Together will be held on February 1, 2025, from
11am - 5pm, at the 1757 Golf Club @ 45120 Waxpool Road, Dulles, Virginia.

Free admission, free food, free to set up (just bring your own case), free fun.

This event has really grown over the last two years and we look forward to continuing that trend; this may eventually turn into a Vintage “National” if we continue the momentum. It’s near the airport, tons of hotels, and good social fellowship after the show at dinner and beyond. Please join us.

Maybe some folks who attended last year can give some testimonials and post some pics.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Andrew and I are pleased to announce that the 3rd Annual Vintage Trade Show and Get Together will be held on February 1, 2025, from
11am - 5pm, at the 1757 Golf Club @ 45120 Waxpool Road, Dulles, Virginia.

Free admission, free food, free to set up (just bring your own case), free fun.

This event has really grown over the last two years and we look forward to continuing that trend; this may eventually turn into a Vintage “National” if we continue the momentum. It’s near the airport, tons of hotels, and good social fellowship after the show at dinner and beyond. Please join us.

Maybe some folks who attended last year can give some testimonials and post some pics.

I will be there Ryan!

[Andrew1975]

I'm really looking forward to the get together. More details to come...

Here is a video I made at last year's event:

https://youtu.be/vxQPw3wfDg0?si=fABS01aLUBBJlT0Q

[theshowandme]

One of the best days of the year!

Looking forward to it.

[JimC]

It really is a fantastic event. Great environment to show some cards and get to know collectors.

[Jewish-collector]

Fantastic event !!! Oh hell yeah !!!

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[brass_rat]

I've been waiting to put this date on my calendar.

I look forward to being there again -- thank you! This is such an enjoyable event.

Cheers,
Steve

[Casey2296]

As long as Val is there with his Hughie Jennings shirt the earth will continue to rotate on its proper rotational axis...

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Wish it wasn't so far away! I'm guessing a vintage autograph table would be great to set up amidst only vintage cards & memorabilia. This from a guy who swore off shows a long time ago, but this kind of event would be much more to my liking.

[ClementeFanOh]

Sounds like a great event. Maybe I’ll make the trip Trent King

[bcbgcbrcb]

I, too, wish I lived closer and could make the drive and set up a table there, although the middle of winter might not be the ideal driving conditions for that. From where I am, 12-13 hours for a one-day event, I just can't do it. If I can somehow get an early morning flight there and a late-night flight back home, I will likely try to make it. Those familiar with the area, better to take a taxi from the airport and back or rent a car for the day?

[theshowandme]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

I, too, wish I lived closer and could make the drive and set up a table there, although the middle of winter might not be the ideal driving conditions for that. From where I am, 12-13 hours for a one-day event, I just can't do it. If I can somehow get an early morning flight there and a late-night flight back home, I will likely try to make it. Those familiar with the area, better to take a taxi from the airport and back or rent a car for the day?

Uber and Lyft pickup is right outside of baggage terminal.

[rjackson44]

Please a you tube video love this octavio

[notfast]

Enjoyed it last year. Wouldn’t miss it this time

Thanks again for doing this

[jjp3rd]

I’ll be there for sure. It was great putting faces to the names from N54 as well as seeing friends from the hobby. Not to mention the awesome cards on display!!


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[timn1]

I would be interested in how much selling and swapping is happening at the event?

I know it wasn't conceived primarily as a BST event, but if it is to become a "Vintage National" (which would be awesome) that implies buying/selling/trading for sure.

Knowing more about this might help me and others who don't live close by to decide whether we want to make the trip to attend.

Thx!

[Piratedogcardshows]

This event sounding like such a wonderful time last year I was looking forward to the next one! I’ll bring a case or two of vintage and hopefully reconnect with some old Chantilly area friends!

[Andrew1975]

Originally Posted by timn1

I would be interested in how much selling and swapping is happening at the event?

I know it wasn't conceived primarily as a BST event, but if it is to become a "Vintage National" (which would be awesome) that implies buying/selling/trading for sure.

Knowing more about this might help me and others who don't live close by to decide whether we want to make the trip to attend.

Thx!

I would say that at this point, although the room may have the feel of a small, all prewar/vintage card show, it is primarily hanging out, talking cards, and showing off collections, with some transactions mixed in. If this continues to grow, it is possible that it could evolve into more of a traditional card show, but that really isn't what it is right now.

Andrew

[JimC]

Originally Posted by Andrew1975

I would say that at this point, although the room may have the feel of a small, all prewar/vintage card show, it is primarily hanging out, talking cards, and showing off collections, with some transactions mixed in. If this continues to grow, it is possible that it could evolve into more of a traditional card show, but that really isn't what it is right now.

Andrew

I think Andrew's description is on the money but I will add that I have met several people at the event with whom I have subsequently done/are discussing deals. It's a great opportunity to actually get to know folks with similar interests. Big card shows can be a little too hectic to allow for much of that.

[oldjudge]

This sounds great---good luck guys! I wish we had a SoCal version.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by JimC

I think Andrew's description is on the money but I will add that I have met several people at the event with whom I have subsequently done/are discussing deals. It's a great opportunity to actually get to know folks with similar interests. Big card shows can be a little too hectic to allow for much of that.

This is a great point. The networking and introductions are very real and material. There may not be many in-person deals at the show, but the relationships created and strengthened absolutely lead to other introductions and deals down the road.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

As long as Val is there with his Hughie Jennings shirt the earth will continue to rotate on its proper rotational axis...

Hi Phil, yes I'll be there with my with my Jennings-back-run T-shirt, the vintage-card god willing and the creek don't rise.

I fully believe that our hobby will evolve to where there is an annual Vintage National (limited to pre-War, hopefully). I just hope this happens before I become too old to attend.

[sammythunder]

This sounds like a great excuse to visit family in Maryland. Is the setting in a conference/ballroom type environment? This would be my first time going.

[hcv123]

A little early to say 100%, but I've been at the last 2 and intend to be at this one.

[Andrew1975]

Originally Posted by sammythunder

This sounds like a great excuse to visit family in Maryland. Is the setting in a conference/ballroom type environment? This would be my first time going.

Sammy, here is a picture of the room where the get together takes place. Obviously, it is set up differently for our event. 1757 is a private golf club that I am a member of. It is very close to Dulles Airport and not far from Dulles Expo Center (where the Chantilly Show takes place).




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[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by sammythunder

This sounds like a great excuse to visit family in Maryland. Is the setting in a conference/ballroom type environment? This would be my first time going.

It's a lovely place, the perfect size so far, with a good restaurant and bar.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

It's a lovely place, the perfect size so far, with a good restaurant and bar.

The food (and maybe bar) will be free this year. As part of the reservation, we had to commit to a certain $$$$ of food (and it is a lot of food), so everyone eats free!

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

The food (and maybe bar) will be free this year. As part of the reservation, we had to commit to a certain $$$$ of food (and it is a lot of food), so everyone eats free!

Just keeps getting better and better. You guys are amazing!

[Natswin2019]

My dad and I have really enjoyed going the last 2 years. Will be great to see everyone again. It's already on my calendar, I can't wait.

[sammythunder]

Originally Posted by Andrew1975

Sammy, here is a picture of the room where the get together takes place. Obviously, it is set up differently for our event. 1757 is a private golf club that I am a member of. It is very close to Dulles Airport and not far from Dulles Expo Center (where the Chantilly Show takes place).




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This sounds great Andrew! Looking forward to being there.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

This sounds great---good luck guys! I wish we had a SoCal version.

Well, Jay, if anyone can make it happen...

[Leon]

This looks like fun guys. I think I might come out to it this time. What do I need to do to reserve a few cases of space, if I come out? Thanks to you guys doing this too. It's appreciated by all.
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[Rhotchkiss]

Leon, that would be amazing. I hope you do come.

You ask a good question -- reserving space. Its much less formal than a traditional "card show", so we dont have a site plan/map, we dont have X number of spots/tables and people arent reserving or buying a certain number of tables or a location.

Instead, there will be lots of tables set up around the room with white table coverings and people just set up where they find space -- first come, first serve. Andrew can correct me, but to my recollection we have not yet run out space, nor has it ever been an issue, which is why we are happy staying in the same room; maybe next year we will graduate to a bigger room or venue.

I have 3 cases, but likely dont need all 3 since I recently sold a most of the bulk of my cards. So I may have one or two cases you can use so you dont have to schlep large items.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

It's a gorgeous room for a show, that's for sure. Beats the cold, uncomfortable concrete slabs that have been the norm.

[Michael Peich]

I think Andrew's description is on the money but I will add that I have met several people at the event with whom I have subsequently done/are discussing deals. It's a great opportunity to actually get to know folks with similar interests. Big card shows can be a little too hectic to allow for much of that.

I agree with Jim who I met for the second time and got to know better. (I think that's a good thing? It is!) I sold one card and bought two, but had a hell of a good time looking at other folks' collections, and talking with like-minded people. The attached is one of the cards I bought, a favorite NL player.

This is a small venue that allows for good conversations without having the crushing cramped noise of the National. Ryan and Andrew are to be commended for putting this together and it's already on my calendar for 2025.

Cheers,
Mike

[t213]

I attended the first two and will attend this one if I can. Meeting everyone and hanging out is the highlight, although I was able to make two deals in the last one, including picking up this card.

Andy Cook

[Andrew1975]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Leon, that would be amazing. I hope you do come.

You ask a good question -- reserving space. Its much less formal than a traditional "card show", so we dont have a site plan/map, we dont have X number of spots/tables and people arent reserving or buying a certain number of tables or a location.

Instead, there will be lots of tables set up around the room with white table coverings and people just set up where they find space -- first come, first serve. Andrew can correct me, but to my recollection we have not yet run out space, nor has it ever been an issue, which is why we are happy staying in the same room; maybe next year we will graduate to a bigger room or venue.

I have 3 cases, but likely dont need all 3 since I recently sold a most of the bulk of my cards. So I may have one or two cases you can use so you dont have to schlep large items.

The room size has been sufficient the last two years, and we have worked with the event staff to fit as many tables as possible, while maintaining space to comfortably move around. That said, I think last year, most of the tables were used. Since we don’t know how many people will show up, and since we aren’t reserving table space, each attendee will be limited to about two showcases worth of space, initially. If there is room, we can spread out as the day goes on. The other banquet room is substantially bigger (but also a lot more expensive). Based on attendance last year, we didn’t think it was necessary to move into the bigger room just yet…

[shoreball51]

I have this on the calendar as I went for the first time last year late in the day, clearly not taking full advantage of what Ryan and Andrew have created. I look forward to hanging with and meeting so many like minded hobbyists. Thank you Ryan and Andrew.

[jefferyepayne]

Hey Ryan and Andrew,

I am most definitely interested in coming! Just want to confirm that you aren't going to restrict the attendance / setup to baseball collectors like you did a few years ago when I was all set to come and then was told that only pre-war baseball people were encouraged to come.

I'd love to be involved if things have changed!

jeff

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

Hey Ryan and Andrew,

I am most definitely interested in coming! Just want to confirm that you aren't going to restrict the attendance / setup to baseball collectors like you did a few years ago when I was all set to come and then was told that only pre-war baseball people were encouraged to come.

I'd love to be involved if things have changed!

jeff

Nothing has changed from a few years ago, the theme is still prewar vintage baseball (like this part of the forum). We did not restrict anything last year, we just discouraged non-themed set ups. Of course we wont turn anyone away, but please know that the event is currently (and still) geared to prewar vintage baseball.

[tjisonline]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Nothing has changed from a few years ago, the theme is still prewar vintage baseball (like this part of the forum). We did not restrict anything last year, we just discouraged non-themed set ups. Of course we wont turn anyone away, but please know that the event is currently (and still) geared to prewar vintage baseball.

Hi Ryan,

So it’s ok if I bring some unique postwar cards to display next to prewar ?
I’m new to collecting prewar (only the last 12 months).

Thanks,

[Fred]

How many people attended last year?

What's that date/time?

What are the costs associated with participating?

Can this thread provide a list of cards that people will be bringing to sell/trade?

Any other pertinent details worth mentioning that can be provided in a summary thread entry?

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Nothing has changed from a few years ago, the theme is still prewar vintage baseball (like this part of the forum). We did not restrict anything last year, we just discouraged non-themed set ups. Of course we wont turn anyone away, but please know that the event is currently (and still) geared to prewar vintage baseball.

Well, that's too bad.

jeff

[Andrew1975]

Originally Posted by Fred

How many people attended last year?

What's that date/time?

What are the costs associated with participating?

Can this thread provide a list of cards that people will be bringing to sell/trade?

Any other pertinent details worth mentioning that can be provided in a summary thread entry?

Hi Fred,

I would say around 30-40 people came last year (over the course of the day). Details regarding date, time, location etc. are in the first post of this thread. There is no cost to attend and food and drinks will be free this year. People can feel free to post in this thread with items they plan on bringing to sell/trade.

Andrew

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by tjisonline

Hi Ryan,

So it’s ok if I bring some unique postwar cards to display next to prewar ?
I’m new to collecting prewar (only the last 12 months).

Thanks,

Sure, You can bring whatever you want! That said, the theme is prewar baseball, and the vast majority of the items there (and collector interests) will fit that theme. Further, we highly encourage people to try to stick mostly to prewar baseball.

[Leon]

For this show, and other shows I might go to, I hope it stays pre-war baseball. I don't mean to offend anyone it's just what I collect.

I have only a little interest in post war cards except someday I might own a '51 Mantle.
As I PM'd Ryan, it's their show and I am just happy and appreciative of being invited.
.
and a card

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Andrew1975

Hi Fred, I would say around 30-40 people came last year (over the course of the day). Andrew

No way to know for sure, but I'd guess the attendance was in the range of 50-60 people or so. I think you probably had 30 or so just manning the tables. I ran nightclubs back in the day, and would often do headcounts in the room to compare to door tickets, sales, etc. Just my two cents, but from being there all day, I think you've understated the count a bit.

[Andrew1975]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

No way to know for sure, but I'd guess the attendance was in the range of 50-60 people or so. I think you probably had 30 or so just manning the tables. I ran nightclubs back in the day, and would often do headcounts in the room to compare to door tickets, sales, etc. Just my two cents, but from being there all day, I think you've understated the count a bit.

Definitely possible… I will trust your judgement, Hank!

[JollyElm]

A random take:

I'm thinking that it's like we Topps-era guys going to a supposedly 'vintage' show and being annoyed at seeing all of the shiny stuff taking up space there.

To the pre-war guys, post-war IS the shiny stuff.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

A random take:

I'm thinking that it's like we Topps-era guys going to a supposedly 'vintage' show and being annoyed at seeing all of the shiny stuff taking up space there.

To the pre-war guys, post-war IS the shiny stuff.

Darren, you got that right!!