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Old 11-16-2022, 04:39 PM
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Ah. I mean that Anson's 'crime' is one of the intellect. He never lynched anybody, enslaved a person, or assaulted someone for the color of their skin as far as I am aware. What he did was not a crime at all, was accepted by his society at that time (Anson was not a commissioner or somebody who could simply dictate to a reluctant following), and was Anson refusing to do a thing himself.

59 in 84, I loved, fascinating look at one of the most interesting single player seasons of baseball history.
You'll love The Summer of Beer and Whiskey then. Chris Von Der Ahe was quite a character.
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You'll love The Summer of Beer and Whiskey then. Chris Von Der Ahe was quite a character.
Thank you! Found a like new hardcover online for $5 and just ordered it.
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I don’t collect too much post 1980 but if I saw a neat Mel Hall Cubs pinback or team issued photo I wouldn’t have any trepidations about buying it.
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I don’t collect too much post 1980 but if I saw a neat Mel Hall Cubs pinback or team issued photo I wouldn’t have any trepidations about buying it.
Mel Hall's story is crazy. The Yankees published a photo of him attending a prom!
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This isn't pre-war, but I'll never collect Johnny Cueto, who has made over $167 million (Baseball-Reference).

He unnecessarily kicked a player in the face during a brawl, ending that guy's career and leading him to experience lifelong health problems.

Here' the story with the video:
https://www.12up.com/posts/johnny-cu...0-01e5aq0jmn1j

(a bit more detailed: http://www.i70baseball.com/2011/05/1...n-la-rue-down/)

And here's the follow up story:
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/l...kicks-to-head/
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Old 12-03-2022, 08:11 PM
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I collect him but I’m not sure why Juan Marichal gets a pass for, at best, assault and battery on film or, if he wasn’t a famous ball player, attempted homicide considering the other things being brought up.
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I collect him but I’m not sure why Juan Marichal gets a pass for, at best, assault and battery on film or, if he wasn’t a famous ball player, attempted homicide considering the other things being brought up.
One of the ugliest incidents in baseball history.



At least there was some sort of apology and forgiveness:

"When Roseboro died at age 69 in 2002, Marichal was an honorary pallbearer and a speaker at the funeral."

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...l-50-years-ago

https://www.si.com/mlb/dodgers/news/...and-redemption

So far, Johnny Cueto didn't even apologize for ending a guy's career and giving him lifelong headaches.
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I collect him but I’m not sure why Juan Marichal gets a pass for, at best, assault and battery on film or, if he wasn’t a famous ball player, attempted homicide considering the other things being brought up.
I've seen a couple of rationalizations for it. Both make me wince.

Marichal is such a gentleman who just lost his cool. Some people seem to think that when someone is often polite and smiles, this makes homicidal behavior more acceptable. The best part about this is that in one recent interview (while exhibiting those exact gentlemanly characteristics), Marichal basically still says today that his actions were not in the wrong.

And, Roseboro forgave him for it. As if Roseboro's personal decision there has anything to do with how awful the incident still was.
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