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Old 01-04-2011, 07:52 AM
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Default Good buy or Bad buy- Round 2

Since Frank's thread went over well.......Good buy or bad buy?
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:13 AM
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how much did you pay for it?
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It was a little under $200. I think it's real but have never seen one before. I took a chance.
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Never seen it either, tape looks very old

Good buy!
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Never seen it either, tape looks very old

Good buy!
I had a gut feeling it's good. Also, I put 2 and 2 together on it. The seller was from NY as well as the card (good sign). I did research on the radio station and it checked out (good sign). The back is blank, so if this was a cut off of a pamphlet (my initial thought) it would most likely have writing/text on the back of it (good sign). The borders look very evenly cut and it has the "look" of a premium type card (good sign). The tape does look old and aged (good sign). The seller has over 1500 perfect feedback. (good sign) ALL of those things together gave me a good feeling, though I am still not 100% on it. If anyone has seen another like it I would be interested in hearing about it as I would love to know more. Just because it could be uniquely known doesn't scare me. I am of those that believe there is still a ton of stuff to be discovered in our hobby. It shipped to me yesterday so we shall see. regards
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A plate from a book would be blank backed. I would check the left edge closely to see if it is uniform or a tad ragged. I've never seen it before so can't say if it is good or bad...but I also think the old tape is at least a good sign.
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A plate from a book would be blank backed. I would check the left edge closely to see if it is uniform or a tad ragged. I've never seen it before so can't say if it is good or bad...but I also think the old tape is at least a good sign.
Good point...though I don't remember seeing too many 3 x 5 book plates, it could be one. I knew it was a risk, but a calculated one.
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My opinion was it was good and that is why I bid up to $175 or so and cost Leon a bit of coin! Neat item, I would have liked to have won it as I've never seen another. I figured I'd either win it fairly cheaply or Leon would see it and I'd get outbid! Good Buy!
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My opinion was it was good and that is why I bid up to $175 or so and cost Leon a bit of coin! Neat item, I would have liked to have won it as I've never seen another. I figured I'd either win it fairly cheaply or Leon would see it and I'd get outbid! Good Buy!
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In hand I still feel it was a good buy....It's not too often I can add something this cheaply to my type set....Sort of wish someone had seen one before, but that is ok. regards
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I think it's real and a terrific piece -- it looks even better in your photo.
Could I please ask you a quick question. One of the most well known models made by Joseph Kren's bat company in Syracuse was the Dick Porter model.
Can you make out any of the wording on the center label and/or barrel of the bat? Is that a Dick Porter signature model?
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I think it's real and a terrific piece -- it looks even better in your photo.
Could I please ask you a quick question. One of the most well known models made by Joseph Kren's bat company in Syracuse was the Dick Porter model.
Can you make out any of the wording on the center label and/or barrel of the bat? Is that a Dick Porter signature model?
Thanks and congrats Leon!

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Thanks for the congrats, Greg. Unfortunately the label can't be read on the bat, even under lighted magnification. It's just not that sharp. I very much believe this was a premium card of sometime. There are no rough edges where it would have been torn from a pamphlet. It definitely has that smooth, old patina/gloss feel too. I am very happy about it...

edited to add that I was contacted by another board member who has one of these...same card, and he says yes, definitely a card but knows of no other players in the set
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I saw that card on the bay and figured it had your name written all over it! Congrats, cool card.
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Thanks Leon for trying to read the bat labeling for me. It's good to hear there's more evidence now that it's definitely real.

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Well it's appropriate that my first post has to deal with a Dick Porter item.

For some quick background, Dick and my grandfather were good friends and Dick used to take my dad out on countless fishing and hunting trips during the 50s-60s. My dad, not a baseball fan in back then, cared more about the talk of girls and bars instead of playing against Babe Ruth, etc.

That said, I picked up a spotless copy of this type card about 7 years ago from a book seller located in Syracuse. It was also on eBay, but (sorry Leon) at less then 10% of the price. This was the third copy I had seen with the other having been used as a postcard and sold for $100 or so.

It is most definitely an original, and as a Dick Porter collector, his stuff is few and far between. He only has three MLB playing era cards:
- 1934 Goudey #43
- 1934 Worldwide Gum (Canadian Goudey)#88
- 1933 Tattoo Orbit R305 (as Richard Porter)

This 1938 Syracuse type card, to my knowledge, was released after he replaced Jim Bottomley as player/manager. He was always a fan favorite since the early 1920s with the Baltimore Orioles, so it was a big deal when he took over as player manager as many fans remembered him from his pre-MLB days winning multiple International League batting titles.

After this type card, I don't believe anything else was released until the Conlon Collection came out in the 90s and he appeared there, then two 1/1 autograph cuts (2005 Leaf Century Collection and 2009 SP Legendary Cuts Mystery Cuts).

Some of my Dick Porter collection is displayed in my dad's home office, and most of it is with me, however the example of this card is with my dad. I will get a scan when possible.

As far as the question about the Kren's bat, Dick did have a few store model Kren's bats - both full-size and minis from this time period. It's my belief that all of the store model bats featured a cursive "Dick Porter" on the barrel. I have a game-used Burke Batrite Porter bat with the standard "PORTER" stamped on the barrel along with the identifying codes and model.

Over the years I've been able to pick up some amazing Porter items and I wanted to add another of these to my collection, but I bowed out #3 in this eBay battle.
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Welcome aboard, RedblackRed, and thanks for the history lesson. I know many on this board are appreciative of this kind of info (including me). It really is what makes the hobby so fun for many of us. take care now...
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First, thank you redblackred, insightful information. Thank you, Sir.

Next, seeing that card juxtaposed with that quarter, it certainly looks to be authentic. I think that's a great acquisition, Leon!!! Well done.
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It was a little under $200. I think it's real but have never seen one before. I took a chance.
Reprints of those are a dime a dozen.
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P.S. Good buy.
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Thanks redblackred, that was interesting.
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Good buy or bad buy?


T206 Ungraded Hal Chase - Dark Cap - Polar Bear Back for 25.50.

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Looks to be a P/G, so is it a good or bad buy?
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but WSYR is still operating as a radio station in the Syracuse, NY, area (I am almost certain)... and while its unlikely anyone there now was there when this premium (of the Syracuse Cheifs manager) was issued, perhaps someone at the station has access to an archive or some such thing that the station may have kept, or knows of one at a local library or at Syracuse University (which may have a communciaitons department that has information on the station's history)... just a thought (or two).....
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Leon, I wanted to bump this to show a scan of mine mentioned previously. I was going through some old Dick Porter photos and it reminded me of this thread. - Mike

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I guess there's one more of these out there. It appears to be a set of one. Too bad they didn't make a Jim Bottomley.

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I assume Porter is a name and not a job description?
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I’ll also assume Dick is a name and not an adjective
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I once knew a person named Dick Barber.

I had such a time trying to keep a straight face whenever I talked to him.

And when he would leave, I would always say there goes a Dick Barber........

His parents must really have been mad at him.
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I guess there's one more of these out there. It appears to be a set of one. Too bad they didn't make a Jim Bottomley.

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I guess there are 2 known now LOL.... I have owned them all!

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