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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Dan Mathewson
Check out this current eBay auction, and go to the link for this card. |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Mike Williams
Are the images of the corners (on the slab and the CD) the actual corners of the card? If so....isn't it a bit excessive for a Nm/Mt grade? |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: leon
I agree with Mike on this one. The corners don't merit an 8 or an 8.5....I feel it would be at best a PSA 7 or an SGC 84 ......I do agree that they handled their mistake the best that it could be handled. They have a long, long way to go to catch the 2 top ones though....not that I don't root for an underdog but when it comes to the value of my cards I will still go to SGC....sort of analgous (sp?) to a rookie ballplayer being compared to a veteran player.....if it is my money I am going for the track history....AND this grade doesn't give me more confidence....maybe they need to higher those other graders quickly....also, I am just wondering (as I often do) about the ROI given the time it takes to grade the card, burn the cd, and other things they say they do....how long will they be around with so much service for so little money? just some rambling thoughts on a boring day.....best regards |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: B C Daniels
It might get a PSA 8 might! |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Dan Mathewson
...but, since people so often go right back to PSA's own standards for comparison... |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Mike Williams
if you like the card....and the service provided, you win! While I don't think the card should merit the Nm/Mt grade, I will say it's nice to see a grading company provide more than just a slabbed card. I've often thought for my $15-40 grading fee, a bit more detail should be given as to why a card graded the way that it did. Don't tell me "altered", tell me what's been altered (The Doc can jump in here!), why a 6 instead of a 7....etc. Have a good one! |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Dan Mathewson
...but, it seems like they are abiding by the Grading standard that they publish and PSA publishes. They look the same. It does seem to me like it fits into an 8. |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: David
I don't like to be a grinch (if you don't beleive me, you should see how spoiled Henry is), and I have no knowledge of the grading proficiency, but it is my impression that Grade-Tech is in over their head as far as authentication goes. And, in theory at least, the grader is supposed to be the expert. Perhaps if they apply themselves, they will be compitent in a year-- but it appears to me that they are like a startup computer software company that hired 20 marketers but forgot to high someone with a computer science degree. I don't wish single them out for harsh treatment, because it is in my opinion that most graders are in over their head in this area. And even some of the things PSA & SGC do boggle my mind sometimes. |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Julie Vognar
shots of the corners should be accompanied by the strength of the microscope used. It's really amazing how frazzled an "8" corner can look magnified! |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Bruce Moreland
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1851273768 |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Dr.Koos
...the Maalox), if by your own admission, "I'm not a professional grader", then what qualifications do you have, to sit in judgement in your Kangaroo court as an expert on grading, fakes, reprints, trimming, alteration, etc., and every other aspect of card assessment... from SCANS no less (most Professional graders need the card IN-HAND to assess it accurately!!!!!!)??? You should be revered as the High Priest of grading! The grader's grader from your uncanny and unparalled ability to discern all that you do just from a scan with 100% accuracy. |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Grade Tech Services, Inc.
I'd like to begin by thanking Dan Mathewson for recognizing Grade Tech's efforts, innovation, objectives and integrity. It is quite evident that you have studied the product and see it's merits, both now and in the future. Your comments are very much appreciated. |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Dan Mathewson
I'll ignore Koos' grade-school rantings and name calling herein, and from now on. He's becoming easy to ignore... <laugh> |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Bruce Moreland
I don't have a problem with the 8's. I have a problem with the ersatz T-206 7 that was originally posted. If you blow up that scan, the corners are rounded. That shouldn't be happening on a near-mint card. |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Dan Mathewson
Maybe you guys can publish, on your site, scans of what Grade 10 corners look like under the microscope? This way, people can compare and see them, and this will solve the question and similar concern... |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: B C Daniels
concerning your qualifications! So let me put it out here in the forum for you..What are your individual qualifications for grading?????? This matters far more than polite or professional letters! |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Grade Tech Services, Inc.
Dan, I think that you have some excellent ideas. In fact we liked them so much that we will prototype them in the next couple of days and submit them for yours and the board's opinion. Please try this link: |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Grade Tech Services, Inc.
Mr. Daniels, I'm sorry if we didn't respond earlier but I don't recall you asking for our credentials. Both Joe and I have actively collected almost our entire lives (60 years combined). We have both enjoyed productive careers; Joe, a successful independent business owner for the last 20 years and myself a NYC Financial District Technology Professional for the same period. |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: John(z28jd)
I think all your thanks should be heaped upon me because i was the one who brought your grading service to light on this board,and i should be due some free graded cards,with authentic only grades because i already know a couple are trimmed. |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Hey John
for an "authentic", or "unaltered" only grade, without a number........maybe we will see one now....as far as me being a good guy to have on their side that is a matter of opinion but I appreciate your sentiment.....I am rather vocal of good AND bad and will ALWAYS give a reason for what I say....definitely make my share of mistakes....and try to learn quickly from them as this new company is trying to do.......I will say that if they do an "authentic" grade I will probably give them a test card......(not a true "test" card but a card for me to test them...you knew what I meant)...... regards all.... |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Mike Williams
designation would be a welcomed addition to the hobby....BUT, as subjective as grading is....is just as subjective as the terms "authentic" and "genuine". |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Dan Mathewson
Sorry, I still don't agree that one error (a quickly admitted and corrected error) makes the cake either way. |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: petecld
Just my 2 cents: |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Mike Williams
but I want to mention a few things: SGC did admit to the "Merkle boner" with the T206 Doyle, PSA I can't speak for. I feel pretty safe in saying that mislabeling holders isn't the meat and potatoes of this debate. The bottom line with a grading company is trust. You should be able to speak to a live, knowledgeable person about your cards and even question why a card was graded a certain way (communication is HUGE). The company needs to be consistent with their grading and treat a "one card submission" from a 12 year old kid the same as a 100 card submission from prominent dealer. |
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Grade Tech - WOW! More and more, I really like this company
Posted By: Dan Mathewson
...But, personally, I opt for more information. |
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