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Ruth photo sells for $26,349.02 in lelands
Posted By: frank foremny
a Babe Ruth photo [lot # 767 ] titled , WHAT A CROWD , well how about , what a price , $ 26,349.02 to be exact , so I have a question for fellow board members , why do you think this photo brought such a large sum ? /thank you , frank |
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Posted By: DJ
No idea. I would have loved it at my max of $800, but this was simply insane. What a great piece though and something tells me there was a bitter fight to get this great image...for the final price of a really nice luxury car. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
It's a very famous image. It must not show up for sale very often...even still the price seems astronomical for that photo. |
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Posted By: brock
When you look at the photo there's a guy in the left corner that looks like Joe DiMaggio alittle. It cant be him but it kinda looks like him to me. |
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Posted By: Phil Garry
It seemed to me that the overall prices in the Lelands auction were significantly higher than many of their previous auctions. i was happy to pick up the Ruth Postcard picturing him in a Boston uniform. |
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Ruth photo sells for $26,349.02 in lelands
Posted By: Josh Evans
That price really shocked us as well. But we knew it was a great image and we have been aware of it for years. The only other specimen I know of I believe was in Christie’s in the Baseball Magazine Collection and I know where it is but it is probably untouchable. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Josh, how many photos were in that San Fransisco hoard? |
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Posted By: Josh Evans
Now Dan, we do not call this a hoard. This is an “archive.” Hoard is something involving bubble gum that Rosen would have gotten out of Tennessee back in the 80s. |
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Posted By: Dan Koteles
that's what you bid on it ! |
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Posted By: cmoking
Josh, so does this mean there will be many more photos in future Lelands auctions? Will there be many other Babe Ruth ones too? |
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Posted By: Josh Evans
Mr. Cmoking: |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Hi Josh- that San Francisco photo archive is truly amazing. It's the gift that never stops giving. Some really great images (even a few of Robert Wadlow- how can you not love him!) |
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Ruth photo sells for $26,349.02 in lelands
Posted By: MVSNYC
hi josh- not sure if you remember me, i sold my T206 Nodgrass variation with you guys about 7 years ago...anyway, good to see you on the board! |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
But that expression on Matty's face is so perfectly reproduced on the card. |
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Posted By: cmoking
Josh, thanks very much for the response, very much appreciated! |
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Posted By: Mike
I certainly understand the photos but what is the significance of the negatives? If you have photo and negative side by side in an auction, what % of the photo is the negative? Thanks Mike |
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Posted By: Josh Evans
Mike |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
King, the photo of Ruth hitting the homerun is so bizarre to me considering our collective knowledge of Ruth photos -- I've never seen a pose of him like that. When you think of him swinging...that view does not come to mind. Very interesting piece. |
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Posted By: cmoking
Jeff, I wonder if it is his advanced baseball age at that time. He retired soon after that game. Maybe his swing wasn't as majestic anymore by that time, and it was a bit of a fluke that he hit 3 that day. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Maybe -- but think about all the footage of Ruth you've seen and pics of him hitting homeruns. Surely he must have reached across the plate for a pitch and knocked it out? Surely he must have gone opposite field at other times. We never see those poses. It's always the same: pitch straight down the middle, quick swing, tiny legs carrying big body around the bases. Your pic presents a different image completely of Ruth. |
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king- |
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Posted By: Mike
Josh, |
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Posted By: leon
I just wanted to say thanks to Josh (Hi Josh) for coming onto our board. I hope other hobby veterans will too. I also want to thank him for being an advertiser. I will never forget when he and I had a conversation a few years ago, right after I took over moderating. We had a very friendly disagreement on my particpation post-moderatorship. We disagreed a little about me stating my opinion on the board since I am the moderator. Josh coined my title "Opinionator"....I have been called much worse and he and I have very cordial conversations nowadays when we see each other at the Nationals. |
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Posted By: Corey R. Shanus
An original negative of an important image, being a unique piece, will always have significant value. However, Josh's point is well-taken. A period first generation print of the image, displaying good contrast and otherwise not having major condition issues, assuming there are few known originals, will usually sell for more simply because it displays better. An exception could be where the image is so special that owning the original negative would allow prints to be generated that (i) have commercial value or (ii) otherwise could not (e.g., the original negative is needed to generate adequate photo quality or because copyright rights are acquired along with the original negative). Another exception would be a negative that also displays as a positive image (e.g., a collodion negative). Josh also is correct that more and more collectors are shelling out the big bucks for an image with special artistry/spontaneity. The Ruth photo Lelands just sold for $26k is a great example of such an image. |
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Posted By: Todd
Josh, thanks again for taking the time to respond on here. I was delighted to have won the oversised original 1948 photo of Ted Williams & Babe Ruth. I'm glad to have won the original image of such a popular photograph. Do you have any background info on this that you could share? |
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Posted By: Josh Evans
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Usually when you see that photo you will see facsimile signatures of Ted and the Babe on it. I'm not even sure I've ever seen that image without the sigs. |
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Posted By: Mike
Josh, |
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Posted By: Mark
Mike makes a great point. If Lelands could make a long lead-time announcement stating the date of their next Catalogue Auction, it would be very helpful. |
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Posted By: scgaynor
Mark, the next catalog auction will go be in May, I don't have an exact date yet, but will know a couple of months in advance and will make it known. |
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Ruth photo sells for $26,349.02 in lelands
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Looks like there is plenty of nice stuff in this current auction. Got my bid in on the 1941 Rose Bowl pics. For the memorabilia guys there is a very nice vintage baseball jersey with athletic sweater. |
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