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Old 06-28-2022, 08:09 PM
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Hey friends -

I've got Orbit pins, Crackerjack pins, Sweet Caporal pins, etc. and I'd love to get some of these graded. That said, I've never submitted anything other than cards for grading (and just a few at that). It seems as if some places won't grade pins or that it's super expensive. Anyone with advice here? Thoughts? Thanks in advance!
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Old 06-28-2022, 11:19 PM
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Why? They look better in a butterfly box:
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Great looking pins, Jay. I concur also
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These are from my last collection. I don't think I have ever sent a pin in to be graded.

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Beautiful pins Jay.
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I’d wait until PSA opens up the lower level services. Than submit to them. To everyone that doesn’t send quality items in for grading before selling. Thank you from me and some others. We really appreciate the extra income.
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Old 06-29-2022, 09:01 PM
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Thanks guys! I’ve been told by long time pin collectors that the pin slabs can trap moisture and cause foxing. They may or may not sell for more slabbed but they are not for sale so it is a moot point.
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Old 06-30-2022, 12:09 AM
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What Jay is saying is on the money. The graded holders for pins can have some moisture issues. Also, they aren't really easy to properly store and nicely display. They're really thick and yet, somewhat tiny. To me, the graded holders take away a lot from the pin and their presentation. And also as mentioned, I don't see grading of pins having anyway near the impact on pricing like it does with cards. Plus, the encapsulation of graded cards is often done to also protect the cards from damage and wear from handling. Pins don't have the same handling concern issues as cards. You aren't going to accidently crease a pin or damage a corner by holding and handling one.

The butterfly display cases Jay showed a sample of are a fantastic way to display pins. You can also use the white cardboard holders used for coins if you want to display fronts and backs of pins. And by using those cardboard single coin display holders you can even put your pins in a binder using multi-pocket pages. The graded pin holders are too bulky and thick to really work well if you want to display your pins in a binder.

At least for now, you don't really have pin collectors all that concerned, or that interested, with grading.
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Another vote here for keeping pins raw.

I prefer to keep my pins (Sweet Caporal, Orbit, Cracker Jack, PM10, 56T Buttons, etc) in binders in white coin flips. It presents nicely.

I do have some pins in a slab, but it's only because they were part of a lot or I got a really good price on them. I haven't found a good way to add the graded pins to my binders.
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Slabbing pinback buttons: Yuck.
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So many of us say we will never sell our collections, or there are certain items we'll "take to the grave". Chances are none of us will actually be buried with our collectibles. And, before our caskets are even in the ground, our family members will be trying to sell everything we've left behind.

Do you want to leave them with more or less $$? Facts are facts and slabbed items get more $.
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Old 06-30-2022, 03:30 PM
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Aaron-You are ignoring the possibility that some of us may be donating a portion of our collections to public institutions. In such cases they will not go into the box with you and they also will not be sold. If that is not the case and you have a valuable collection the auction house that is consigned it after your demise will no doubt agree to bear the cost of grading better unslabbed items so, if that is the way to maximize realizations, then it will probably happen anyway even if you don’t do it yourself. If the auction house decides not to grade some items they are making the decision that it doesn’t make economic sense to do so. If you have a ‘52 Topps Mantle it will get graded. If you have a collectors grade 1960 Bob Cerv it probably won’t.
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So many of us say we will never sell our collections, or there are certain items we'll "take to the grave". Chances are none of us will actually be buried with our collectibles. And, before our caskets are even in the ground, our family members will be trying to sell everything we've left behind.

Do you want to leave them with more or less $$? Facts are facts and slabbed items get more $.
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So many of us say we will never sell our collections, or there are certain items we'll "take to the grave". Chances are none of us will actually be buried with our collectibles. And, before our caskets are even in the ground, our family members will be trying to sell everything we've left behind.

Do you want to leave them with more or less $$? Facts are facts and slabbed items get more $.
Aaron,

Not disputing anything you're saying, but as Jay, I and others have mentioned, for some reason graded pins don't seem to bring the bumps in prices you'll see with raw versus graded cards. At least that is my experience. Now that can change in the future of course, but unless you have a truly outstanding pin that looks brand new and will likely grade better than a 7, I'm not sure the cost of grading will really be worth it. Especially for pins that have a little bit of honest wear and tear to them. Even then, I'd pretty much just restrict any grading to the superstar players.

Personally, I've never seen or heard of someone bragging about the Registry ranking of their pin sets/collections, certainly not like many people do for their card sets/collections. And let's face it, the Registry is a big contributing factor to why the pricing of some TPG graded cards is so much higher than for raw versions of those same cards. Just doesn't seem to be the same overall Registry influence pushing up graded pin prices.
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Old 06-30-2022, 04:45 PM
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Graded cards get more $.
Graded photos get more $.
Graded naked ladies get more $.
Graded/authenticated autographs get more $.

Just a matter of time before all graded pins will get more $.
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Old 06-30-2022, 04:50 PM
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LOL, I like my naked ladies without plastic over them
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LOL, I like my naked ladies without plastic over them
Thank you. That made me laugh so hard.... Until my wife asked what was so funny. :-)
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I don’t know of any serious pin collectors who want them graded. And I hope that never changes.
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Maybe they just slap a sticker on them somewhere.

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PSA grades pins, and I've seen some pins in Beckett holders although they don't present nearly as well in their holders because they put them in a card-type holder rather than a coin-type one that PSA does. For PSA, you might want to check the population reports before you submit it as I've sent pins to PSA and had them come back unholdered as PSA didn't recognize that type of pin. Also grading is very expensive these days, and grading pins is the same price as cards so the minimum grading fee is at least $30 per pin right now. As others have said, it may be just be more worthwhile to keep the pins raw instead of sending them for grading.
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I like mine in a shadowbox.
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Not sure if it's wrong but I store mine in a penny sleeve within thicker top loaders for 130/180 pt. Lets me store with other things easy enough.
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Old 07-01-2022, 10:23 PM
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Thought I would add another team to the Whitehead and Hoag pin mix:
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Riker Mount display boxes really look great as a way to display your pins. See the first pic in Gary's post.
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I like seeing Pinbacks all thrown together. The more crowded the better. I have a few more to add already!
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Love the Cleveland display--nice to see a Patsy Tebeau in there.
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Butterfly boxes for me.
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Thanks! Had no idea there were so many other Cameo Pepsin pins of Cleveland Spiders to be had. Cy Young AND Louis Sockalexis! Wow! Thanks for sharing your display.

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Like the pins Jay, really like the Holliday and Beckley pins though.
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Cleveland had some stars—Jesse Burkett in the prime of his career too.

Thanks Clint—two Old Judge set guys.
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