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Old 04-29-2022, 10:07 PM
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Hey guys,
Thank you for always helping me out. I really appreciate your help, thoughts and advice.

When it comes to vintage cards, what do you prefer….graded cards or raw? I personally prefer raw vintage cards because I Like to hold my cards, feel my cards, and even like the smell of old topps cards! I feel with graded cards you lose the traditional vintage experience. What do you prefer? Thanks
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Hey guys,
Thank you for always helping me out. I really appreciate your help, thoughts and advice.

When it comes to vintage cards, what do you prefer….graded cards or raw? I personally prefer raw vintage cards because I Like to hold my cards, feel my cards, and even like the smell of old topps cards! I feel with graded cards you lose the traditional vintage experience. What do you prefer? Thanks
Raw!

But, unfortunately when looking at some older/rarer/more valuable cards (especially pre-war) you may not always have a raw card option you can readily find. So, you may have to go the graded card route sometimes whether you like it or not. Of course, you can then remove graded cards from their slabs to take them back to a raw state. Always your choice.
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raw....awhile ago I sold off all my graded cards.
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My collection includes approx 90% raw as compared to 10% graded. But...the value of my collection is likely mostly in the graded.
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raw....awhile ago I sold off all my graded cards.
+1 I also prefer ungraded and sold 99% of my graded cards about a year ago. The 10 or so graded cards I have left the slabs/cards are special/oddball in some way.
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Graded, especially for pre-war. I don’t care necessarily about the grade as much as I do protection for the card. Doesn’t take much to put a crease in a raw paper thin Cracker Jack. Also easier to store for me.
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While I have bought slabbed cards for my set completions, I release them from their tomb and add them to the set. I much prefer raw over slabbed. I want all the cards in the binder together where they belong.

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I agree guys! If you hold a vintage raw card and you hold a vintage graded card, raw seems so much more right for the time period. For modern cards I totally get graded is best but for vintage, I’ll go for raw cards in an old cigar box all day long!
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I agree guys! If you hold a vintage raw card and you hold a vintage graded card, raw seems so much more right for the time period. For modern cards I totally get graded is best but for vintage, I’ll go for raw cards in an old cigar box all day long!
I like both. I can learn from raw but for most of my more expensive cards a holder is fine. It protects them.

This doesn't need to be graded, imo. Nor do I need to cleanly erase the designation on the back. It adds character LOL


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Raw except for rarer cards which need the protection. I collect Cincinnati Reds players. I don't find much desire to grade those due to the increased fees. And once turn around time increased, and hearing stories of lost/stolen cards, I just lost interest.

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I've never bought raw but obtained two through trades. I prefer raw, but so many of the best cards are now entombed, that it won't be an option soon. It would be ironic if raw cards started selling at a premium. LOL
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Read my signature. It says it all. I just collect the cards, and that is how it was when I was a kid. If I am risking a fortune, so what. I am in a hobby, not an investment brokerage.
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As mentioned above I like raw cards but I think for future resale value slabs are the way to go especially with all the fake vintage cards starting to pop up in the hobby!
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Who gives a good hoot about value and future resale? Talk to a card investment broker. They are all over this forum. I am in the minority. I am a collector, and I just like having the cards. If my cards are fake, so be it, I like them anyway. But I seriously do no think they are.
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Raw, because if graded, my ability to write an insult on the card is instantly lost.

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it really depends for me. I prefer my higher dollar cards to be graded so they are ready to sell if I decide to. It bugs me a little when I peruse my babe ruth/ty cobb collection and 95% of them are graded and fit all nice in their storage box...then there are some raw cards that either noone will grade or I havent bothered/wanted to pay the price...and sometimes the top loaders stick to the slabs and i freak out thinking I lost them!!

Then I have binders full of cards from early 20th c-present that I prefer being able to handle and would likely never get sold or would be sold raw.

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You might be correct...but my stomach is still holding out for 'flat lunch'.

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Some cards, especially some lower grade ones, tell stories. ....similar to Brian's above...

I think this back is much better than a blank one. I see absolutely no reason to get it graded.

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I really like having a selection of both, at the shows raw cards do much better as the price is less and you can really look at the cards. Online it's really mixed and do better with graded depending on the card. There seems to be a switch with a lot of dealers having raw cards which is a good option for everyone!

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I have both raw and graded, but I prefer graded (SGC). The card in the slab with the black insert just looks cooler to me.
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I prefer graded cards for a few reasons. I like the protection it provides. I enjoy trading cards and typically it is easier to trade and determine value when the card is graded. The last reason is that when I pass away, I think having graded cards makes it easier on my loved ones.

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Graded. Eye appeal still matters and I don't mind low grade, but with graded it is easier to handle for insurance purposes vs raw it gets a lot more complicated on establishing a value if something happens. Prices of raw are still compared on a grading scale anyway.
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I think as much as us old farts (me included) resist it, graded cards are the future of the vintage card hobby!
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Some cards, especially some lower grade ones, tell stories. ....similar to Brian's above...

I think this back is much better than a blank one. I see absolutely no reason to get it graded.

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Hey guys,
Thank you for always helping me out. I really appreciate your help, thoughts and advice.

When it comes to vintage cards, what do you prefer….graded cards or raw? I personally prefer raw vintage cards because I Like to hold my cards, feel my cards, and even like the smell of old topps cards! I feel with graded cards you lose the traditional vintage experience. What do you prefer? Thanks
I prefer raw. However, the increase in value and protection cases offer bring an increasingly important consideration to light. I have not had a card graded yet, but the day is coming when this will likely change
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Raw 100%. The only time my cards will see slabs is at auction, God willing many decades from now.

The only way I might consider otherwise is if a TPG designs a flip that doesn't distract from the card, which they all do currently. Maybe black with minimal gray text, or something of the like to make the card pop.
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100% pure/raw for me

If you care about reselling and the value then I understand slabbed.

Short story/memory: Back in the 80's I was at a card show with my Dad and there were some coins there and they were graded. I asked Dad did he ever think they would do that do baseball cards and he said "No way. Look at that coin, what is the first thing you see?" I said "the number." He said, "Exactly, that is why they will never do that to cards as it would take away their value."
He passed 20 years ago and I don't think ever saw a slabbed card.
Ironic that it increases the value not decreases as he predicted.

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Another reason to collect raw cards are that they make for a better group scan.

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Now THAT right there is what I'm talking about!
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I think it's irrelevant but if I go to sell this I might need to get it graded just to increase value. Not sure about it though...

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I prefer raw but have both in my collection. The only cards I specifically buy graded are 1933 Goudey HOFers because I really like how they look in SGC holders. Well, those and PSA 8 Jim "Toy Cannon" Wynn cards. Really.

Surprisingly, the majority of my E98 near-set is graded. And I like having them graded to be honest.

I've never submitted a card for grading because the majority of my raw cards aren't worth the grading fees.

Also, the fact that most of my cards are raw could also be a function of my budget. I collect mostly low grade cards so I'm not concerned with the protection side of slabbing a card. I, too, like to feel the cardboard and play with them. I keep them in toploaders or semi-rigid holders, but I often take them out to hold them and feel the history.

Anyway, that's my story when it comes to graded vs. raw.



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My opinion on raw vs graded change like I change my underwear ….frequently!…. Mostly because you guys being up so many great points that I didn’t think about. Just as I make up my mind then I start thinking of all the great advice here and it gets me thinking!

I love the protection of graded cards. I like the look of graded cards but storing graded cards takes up a lot of room. As mentioned above holding raw cards in your hands just hits different. Like holding history in your hands. Going though s box of vintage and going through a box of graded is just a different feel. But graded cards are cool and all the hype now in the hobby.
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Old 08-10-2022, 02:45 PM
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Raw. Because the puzzles look silly if your cards are graded

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Old 08-10-2022, 07:26 PM
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Raw. Because the puzzles look silly if your cards are graded
I agree...I felt like a master puzzle champion when I laid these down on the scanner. But then I saw the results, and I guess I am just a puzzling apprentice after all.

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Old 08-11-2022, 07:55 AM
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Raw for sure....I have been known to crack a few PSA / SGC holders over the years.....still have those cards - saved the paper with grade / info......
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Old 08-11-2022, 07:58 AM
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I prefer graded cards for a few reasons. I like the protection it provides. I enjoy trading cards and typically it is easier to trade and determine value when the card is graded. The last reason is that when I pass away, I think having graded cards makes it easier on my loved ones.

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Your point about graded cards being easier on your loved ones makes complete sense for sure.....
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Old 08-20-2022, 09:27 PM
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I agree with this point
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Old 08-25-2022, 07:07 PM
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Any other thoughts on this? Thanks
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