Specialized Catalog Cuban Cards Answer

[richardcards]

Rolando
Do you have any information on these sets.
I know they are very rare.
Thanks Richard

[Roland 49]

Richard, I answer, from the collection of Matches "The Author" I do not know the amount, but I have more than 40 cards, each box of matches had 2, one in front and one in the back, I send you two for you to see, From the "Mejoral" collection, as you can see, the photos were in the booklet and they opened in the shape of an accordion, I have 3 complete booklets, but I have never seen the one from Cienfuegos, perhaps it was not printed, but I think so, if any that you see this thread has it please let me know.

[Roland 49]

Ricardo, I send you 2 covers of the magazine "Carteles". Do you know them?

[Butch7999]

¡Hola, Roland! Hemos vuelto- nuestras disculpas por nuestra ausencia en la última semana y media...
varias distracciones desafortunadas y más problemas de salud.

Gracias una vez más por las fotos y la información que publicó la semana pasada! Las placas de impresión
de plomo son ciertamente inusuales e intrigantes acompañamientos a los juegos de mesa -- en realidad,
todo lo que has mostrado, las cartas de los jugadores, las revistas, todo esto es extremadamente informativo
e interesante. ¡Tu colección de artefactos es indefectiblemente impresionante!

Creemos que estabas sugiriendo que tenías el campo de juego de Caramelos "Play" para mostrarnos,
y esperamos ver eso, si puedes localizarlo. También le preguntaremos de nuevo si conoce la edad
aproximada de ese juego.

¡Gracias de nuevo por su cooperación y asistencia!

[Roland 49]

Butch te envio un póster gigante de propaganda de Caramelos Play, el tablero de juego es igual de cartón, también tengo el molde original. Saludos y cuidense la salud. Cuando veas esto me lo haces saber.

[Roland 49]

Richard, there are many there is also the amateur collection, I now send you others but tell me the 10 you have to look for different ones.

[richardcards]

I have these also.
I will send list soon.
Front cover Carteles.
Thanks Richard

[richardcards]

1920s Herrera

1950s Front cover page
Flietas
Pages
Rubert
Duany
Solis
Pendergras
Miranda
Consuegra
Moreno
Estalella
Tapanes
Hildago

Thank you

[richardcards]

The list is front covers only.
I have some back covers
and amateurs I believe.

Let me know if you find any more
Front cover I have 12.

Thank u

[Roland 49]

I show you a postcard size card from Regino Otero, on the back it is blank, do any of those who see this thread know which collection it belongs to?

[Roland 49]

This collection of postcards of the 4 teams is quite extensive, behind it is blank, does any of the thread know the name of the collection?

[Roland 49]

3 days ago I received an email and they asked me how many Coca Cola cards were in the collection, I then asked, because there are several things of that brand in Cuban baseball, so he sent me a Havana card, then I posted one on the thread. card and yesterday a group of several, with the intention that some of you will answer the question, but I see that none have answered, I think it is because they do not know or because nobody is interested in this topic, many years ago I got the family of a seller of the brand a lot with these cards in their original envelopes sealed with the cards inside and previously a card from a sample book, which on the back, by mechanical means, the brand of the factory appeared printed, I plan to reply with photos to the persian who asked me, to your email, but if it is of interest to some of this thread, and they ask me, then I publish it here,

[Roland 49]

Richard, many years ago on ebay these cards were sold as if they were Coca Cola, I do not know who with a great ignorance invented this, a few days ago I connected and saw those cards for sale as Coca Cola, it is a serious error, inside I'm going to show his real name for a while, now they called me and I have to go out

[Roland 49]

Richard, I'm back, those cards belong to the collection "Sol de Oro" 1949, at the beginning of 2000, I bought a group inside its original label, sealed, it had never been opened, in a very good state of conservation, they were inside the Over more than 50 years, the collection of the 4 teams is numerous, they appear in Volume 2 of my catalogs, I think that many collectors did not know the name of this series, I would like some to comment on something and I would be grateful. I send you the photo of the label with the card that was inside.

[Roland 49]

A few days ago they asked me a question through my email and I decided that it should be known through the thread because I consider that it is important for collectors, since although that series is not one of the most important, but it has postcards from Dandridge and other players from the Black Leagues, no one that I know knew what trademark it belonged to, and I asked, Richard you were the only one who answered, so I published the photo of the original label with one of your postcards, I consider it important that collectors who have that Postcards know which series they belong to, I asked some of them to make a comment, but no one has, perhaps what is published by me is not interesting, but I am always ready to help you.

[Roland 49]

Richard, days ago you asked me to mention from 1 to 5 the cards that I consider rarer, I have already spoken about that, I think # 1 should be the "Punch" they are rare and in great demand, the rarest of this collection It is the photo card with the team members in a group, the players in their original photo, without the brown frame that borders them on the cards and a black frame on the 4 edges, it is a super rare piece, larger and the factory gave a gift just like the letters. From 2 to 5, without putting order, "Billiken" and "La Moda" these also have the rarest piece which are the individual photos 8 X 10 inches, super rare, I follow "Mallorquinas" "Cabañas" "Aguilitas" 2nd series, etc, all are in great demand but they are not the rarest,

[Butch7999]

¡Hola otra vez, Roland! Nuestras disculpas de nuevo por nuestro retraso en responder.
Muchas gracias por esa mirada al cartel publicitario de Caramelos "Play". "Gigante ", dices
-- ¿qué tan grande es?

Gracias también por mostrar las cartas de juego Almendares-Habana - ¿son esos los dos únicos equipos
que aparecen en la baraja, o aparecen imágenes de Cienfuegos y Marianao en otras cartas?

Por cierto, nada que ver con el béisbol de mesa, pero nos preguntábamos si tienes algo - tarjetas,
artículos de revistas, etcétera - específico de Pancho Herrera. ¡Es una leyenda en el béisbol de Buffalo!

¡Saludos! ¡Tú también te mantienes saludable!

[Roland 49]

Butch, how good that you are back, those are the Havana and Almendares cards that I have, I have to look for the poster to measure it, now I send you the Baby of Almendares, it is very rare, I think you have never seen it, by Panchon Herrera I have several things but I have to look for them, when you see the baby tell me, take care.

[richardcards]

Love this baby.
Thanks Richard

[Roland 49]

Scott, the first thing I will do is thank you for answering my request to comment on the writing of the "Golden Sun" and also give honest information and also the reason for your decision to put the cards on sale a long time ago as if they were from Coca Cola, what he said is correct, since their origin was never known before due to the lack of information, for my part I learned something new with you, and I am very happy that you participate in this thread, and I hope you continue to do so , thanks again and my regards to you.

[Roland 49]

Richard, you will see a cover but there are many such drawings, and one of the numbered series, of these there are 14 but they go inside the Carteles magazine, I don't know if you are interested, let me know.

[Roland 49]

Jason, I found this book on Semiprofessional Leagues this is from the Commercial League, which was one of the many leagues that existed, I send you photos of the 1945 cover, inside the 1944 records appear, you will see that Orestes Miñoso was the champion bat, that It was his last year of playing semi pro, I send you the photo of a team where Alejandro Oms played in his final stage as a player, and in that team Rafael Almeida was the manager, I will continue looking for some information about the Buenavista team, that was always a neighborhood that I was in Marianao, I don't know if you see this thread, but when you read it you let me know, greetings.

[richardcards]

I have exactly 12 front cover Carteles
Is it possible Baseball covers where issued
for one year only?
I have 12 front covers and never found
another in 20 years.
I think 12 is the complete set.
Thanks Richard

[Roland 49]

Richard, I have the relationship that you sent me with the names, of the 12 covers, now I ask you, are you only interested in the covers with the photos of the players, the pictures, are you not interested?

[Roland 49]

In response, the "Punch" factory was founded in 1840, by Don Manuel López, owner of J. Valle y Cia, the British market at that time had it among their priorities, at that time the humorous magazine "Punch" was fashionable. whose main character was "Mr. Punch" with tobacco in hand and they decided to put that image in the views of the packages, British smokers liked these cigars because the layers tend to be very careful reddish brown. You will see an image of a view from 1850 among two others from later times. I'll be back with the 2nd part.

[Roland 49]

Jason, I will tell you that a grandson of Tito Oms I have known him for years and every so often he comes to my house, the last time was about 6 months ago, he has told me that the Oms have family ties with the Champion Mesa family, Now I send you a photo that the 3 Oms brothers are, the photo is not in good condition, but I think you can realize who the three are, if you have questions ask me, greetings.

[Frankish]

I know it is a photo rather than a card, but do you happen to know the name of the player sitting next to Castro here? Thank you!

[Roland 49]

Continuous, Manuel López was right to set his eyes on the English market, in 1559, a theatrical work called Cuban Ebullition was performed in London, the artists released the smoke with pressure and intermittently, in 1598 the German traveler P. Hentzener in his book "Memories of travel" writes that the English wherever they are smoke La Hierva Nicoteana, in 1620 Bernabe Rich, calculates the volume of sale in London that is half a million pounds that comes in each year. In the early years of the 20th century, several companies, including "American Tobacco" and several others, entered Cuba and bought 291 brands of tobacco and 85 cigarettes. In 1910, "Los Independientes" emerged, who were the ones who did not sell their factories. they were "Punch". Now you will see several images of this brand in boxes and rings.

[Roland 49]

Franco, it seems to me that the player is Agustín Arias, he was a great hitter in 1971, he was a champion bat, with the Mineros team from Oriente province, he doesn't look very good in the photo.

[Roland 49]

When Sir Winston Churchill visited Havana, he visited the "Punch" factory on Monte y Zulueta streets, and had them prepare some cigars with chosen size, thickness, color and layers, and he named them "Churchill" vitolas. To be part of the brand's vitolario, as far as I know in the late 1990s, this vitola was still sold for export. The ring that you will see is from King GeorgeV, which was made by the factory in 1910, for his coronation, it is made with thin sheets of Gold, in lithographic stone, it coincides in the year of the Cigar cards with the players and you will see a view of tobacco printed in silver for the 25 years of his reign, made especially for the Shop East Orange in NJ with this I conclude the questions they asked me.

[Roland 49]

Now I show you a very rare card from Kevin Connors, The Rifleman, from the O. Diaz collection, years ago in Cuba on Mondays on television there is a program called "Senderos del Oeste" and they always present a film of this genre, but first They show a short of the different episodes of the 50s, a few months ago they put one of The Rifleman, I remember them in the 50s that every day I saw several: Rin Tin Tin, The Lone Ranger, Roy Rogers, Red Ryder, etc.

[Roland 49]

Jason, since you tell me that Alejandro Oms is a player of your choice, I send you some photos from different years, some before the 20s, all of them with the complete team but I edited them. Greetings.

[Roland 49]

Now I show you a very rare L. Pearson card from the O. Diaz collection.

[Roland 49]

Butch, days ago I sent you the Baby Baseball from Almendares, you have not answered me, now you have an image from 1949 of a Three Kings Day, you see a girl waking up with toys, you will see 2 baby, one from Almendares and the from Havana by bicycle, when you see it, tell me, I have other things.

[Frankish]

Originally Posted by Roland 49

Franco, it seems to me that the player is Agustín Arias, he was a great hitter in 1971, he was a champion bat, with the Mineros team from Oriente province, he doesn't look very good in the photo.

Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to go over our questions. And of course I always enjoy posts from your collection (even if many do make me envious).

You are right...he doesn't look very good. Although this must be early in his career I am guessing, when his hitting was not so consistent....

All the best!

[Butch7999]

¡Hola, Roland! Nuestras disculpas una vez más por otro retraso en la respuesta.
Normalmente nos abstenemos de publicar a menos que los tres podamos colaborar,
y uno de nosotros tuvo otra breve estancia en el hospital y luego varios días recuperándonos
en casa, así que no pudimos reunirnos.

¡Esas muñecas de béisbol son una delicia! Gracias por mostrarles. No habíamos
sospechado, a juzgar por su primera foto de la muñeca Almendares, que eran tan grandes
como se revelan por el segunda foto.

¡Saludos!

[Roland 49]

Butch, now I am sending you a photo of the Baseball Martin's game, it is very rare, I have only seen the one from my collection, in the photo you will see part of the board, you will notice that with your finger the arrow is driven and where it falls, that is the play, It also has a blackboard to mark the outs, strikes, balls, etc. It comes in its box and lid, now I ask you there are several baseball things such as toys, marugas, bicycle bells for children etc. are you interested? let me know. Greetings and take care of your health.

[Roland 49]

Jason, I am sending you a photo of an American Series program in La Tropical, this is from 1940, maybe you have it or you are interested in seeing it, there are many since every year they were made in Cuba, on the cover you see Jhonny Mize.

[Roland 49]

Now I show you the marble plaque of the Hall of Fame of Cuba, after being restored and placed in one of the halls of the Cerro Stadium, today the Latin American Stadium, in December 2020, this plaque is the original that was placed shortly after After the Grand Stadium of Havana was inaugurated in 1946, I was present the day it was placed and the day it was unveiled on December 29, 2020.

[Butch7999]

Nos disculpamos de antemano, Roland - le respondimos en el otro hilo de discusión
(estamos demasiado fácilmente confundidos!).

Nuestro comentario fue el siguiente:
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¡Hola, Roland! Este juego de Martin -- eso es maravilloso de ver - era completamente desconocido para nosotros!
¿Tienes más imágenes, o imágenes más grandes, de ese juego o sus otros componentes (su caja, cualquier parte del juego,
instrucciones)? Nos gustaría ver todas las partes de todo el juego. ¿Conoces al fabricante o al año en que se produjo?

Todo lo que has mostrado (juegos, cartas, revistas, juguetes y más) es interesante. ¡Qué increíble colección
y biblioteca de artefactos tienes! Pero siempre, siempre, somos los más interesados en ver los juegos de mesa
y saber qué información (fabricante, año de producción) tienes sobre ellos.

¡Gracias como siempre por tus buenos deseos! ¡ja! ¡Nos estamos desmoronando!
Saludos...

[Roland 49]

Butch, it does not matter that you post in any thread, I see both, and I almost always put the images in both for those who connect to one of them, I will look for more information about the Martin's game but I have to look for the box, that image is Edited in part from one of my catalogs, now I am sending you a photo of a 100 x 100 Almendarista bicycle bell, when I was a child I had a Niagara brand bicycle, I don't know if that brand currently exists, and that was the bell I used, because I was always an Almendarista, I have more of you, let me know when you see this one.

[Roland 49]

Yesterday I showed the plaque of the Hall of Fame of Cuba, now I show you the plaque also restored of the players who fought in the War of Independence of 1895, this plaque was initially placed in the halls of the Hall of Fame on February 24, 1948, today like the previous one was developed after its restoration on December 29, 2020, in February 2021 two new plaques were placed, one of them with the names of other combatants that did not appear in the 1948 one and another with women who played baseball some in the 19th century and in the early 20th century.

[Roland 49]

Several candy factories are known that gave away cards for example players: Mallorquina, El Indio, Felices etc. Now I am showing you something very strange, the wrapping paper for the candies, in this case with the Almendares scorpion, when you bought the candies for 1 cent they would give you a card in a closed paper, when you took out the candy you would always throw away the wrap That's why it is super rare to see a piece of candy, do you agree with me?

[Roland 49]

Now I show an entry ticket to the 3rd math game for the 1904 championship in Santiago de Cuba, in their fields of "Campo Rojo"

[Roland 49]

I show you a collection of cards from the "Pioneer Weekly" from 1970, you will see the sheet of cards without cutting, and a card, you will see that there is a striped line between the photo and the name, the sheet was glued to a cardboard and folded By the line, then the card after pasting it was seen from the front and the back like any other collection card, few copies of that series were made, it is not easy to get it, the complete series is 24 cards.

[Roland 49]

Yesterday I showed you the "Pioneer" collection from December 1970, today you will see the one from November 1971, these 40 cards but with the faces drawn, this collection is more common than the previous one. I have sometimes seen it on ebay, now I tell you An anecdote, about 8 or 9 years ago, the starting players of the National Series were invited to the Stadium to see a game of the Industriales team and a tribute to them, at the beginning of the game I go to the stands behind home play and I sit next to Pedro Chavez, we talked for about 10 minutes and I carried an envelope with 2 albums from this series, at that moment I showed it to Chavez so that he could sign his postcard, but he was amazed for a while looking, and He tells me: Rolando has passed many years and the first time I see him, it is something amazing, around us were the other veteran players, Marquetti, Vinent, Arias, Capiro, Puente, Rachath, Isasi, and the 2 albums went through the everyone's hands and they signed it, none of them I had seen them, I talked and shared with all of them, when I was going to retire shortly after, Chavez calls me and thanks me for teaching him something they did not know and for keeping those cards for so many years. I'll show you some of those signed cards. ,

[Roland 49]

Today I ask you, a while ago I was looking for some photos and I found an envelope with some postcards of Cubans in the Major Leagues, I had not seen them for many years and I remember that in the 90s I bought a lot of around 70 postcards of that time and separate in the envelope those of the Cubans, I ask you, what series do they belong to, year, price, etc.?

[Roland 49]

Now you will see another series of rather rare cards, I have 21 from Cubans and 2 from players from Mexico, I put the collection "Radio Rebelde" because it is the only information that appears on the back, I consider that they were printed in 1972, but I'm not sure, photos go.

[Butch7999]

¡Hola Roland! ¡Gracias por sus últimas presentaciones!

Mencionaste la bicicleta "Niagara", y esto nos intrigaba. Pensamos que tal vez eran
una compañía local de antes de nuestro tiempo y de la que nunca habíamos oído.
Algunas discusiones aquí :
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/niagara-schwinn.6376/
determina que eran una empresa cubana.

Por favor, mostrar más del juego de Martin, si se puede, cuando se puede!

Saludos!

[Roland 49]

Butch, interesting about the "Niagara" bicycles for sure I have photos and advertisements, but I have to look for them, that brand of bicycles in Cuba was like saying a Cadillad in cars, I rode it for many years and it never broke and I did not wear one. tire, now I am sending you from the Martin's game the name of the creator, something you asked me about from "Panchon Herrera" is going with you, when you see it, let me know, there are more things