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Old 11-30-2024, 12:07 AM
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Default t206 Grading for Pen marks on back of card: SGC vs PSA

I have a few off back T206 cards like the Konetchy EPDG and the Overall Sovereign below that I wanted to send in for grading. Normally if the factory is irrelevant I send them to SGC. I was going to send these to SGC but I recall hearing somewhere that SGC is really hard on cards with pen or pencil marks? Like you wont get above a 2. PSA I know does the qualifier MK and grades the card normally. I have had success with PSA in the past getting a few 3s with the qualifier.

Curious if anyone has any experience with SGC being extra hard on cards with marks or writing on them.

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Old 11-30-2024, 06:53 AM
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Either way, you're looking at a 1.5 at SGC (most likely) or a 2(MK) or 3(MK) from PSA.

When it comes to PSA, you're really talking 2 things: the Set Registry/collectors and the grade.
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Bonus Points and Deductions
Some sets may have bonus points assigned to certain items within a set.

Additionally, the following point deductions are taken for Qualifiers. For example, if your card or ticket is graded PSA 9Q, the grade calculation in the Registry will be 7.

9Q = -2
8Q = -2
7Q = -2
6Q = -2
5Q = -2
4Q = -2
3Q = -1
2Q = -1
1Q & 1.5Q = no deduction
So if they get a 3(MK), they're considered a 2 for registry purposes; if they get a 2(MK), they're considered a 1. However, if they get a FAIR 1.5 (MK) -not actually considered a half grade, so possible - they are still worth a 1.5 for the registry competition.

For these, I don't think it matters that much. They're low grade with or without the marks. If they were like 6(MK), they'd be more valuable as PSA 4s for the registry.
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I hate the way that PSA uses qualifiers and much prefer the SGC system. Saying that this card is a 4 except that it has a pen mark is like saying that my wife is gorgeous except that she’s fat. Doesn’t work for me.
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