Shocking eBay Auction

[ballparks]

Wow. I can't believe that this sold for more than $5!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1923-World-...p2047675.l2557

[commishbob]

P. T. Barnum knew what he was talking about.

[philo98]

I was tracking that one and was amazed at the price as well. Prices on everything are just getting insane now.

[ballparks]

Originally Posted by philo98

I was tracking that one and was amazed at the price as well. Prices on everything are just getting insane now.

A real one would be around $2000, but someone just paid $362.78 for a bookmark.

[UKCardGuy]

As a learning exercise for a relative noob when it comes to vintage tickets, could I check that I've identified the reasons why it's an obvious fake:

Paper: Too new and lacks perforations
Color: Should be white with red and blue ink.
Watermark: No watermark
Quality: The details of the printing are poor
Errors: The price is $1.10 made up of $1.60 + 0.14 Tax? I'm pretty sure the Yankees would have gotten their sums right on the ticket.

Have I missed anything?

I'm also curious, would a legitimate ticket have the words "Bleachers Admission"?

[ballparks]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

As a learning exercise for a relative noob when it comes to vintage tickets, could I check that I've identified the reasons why it's an obvious fake:

Paper: Too new and lacks perforations
Color: Should be white with red and blue ink.
Watermark: No watermark
Quality: The details of the printing are poor
Errors: The price is $1.10 made up of $1.60 + 0.14 Tax? I'm pretty sure the Yankees would have gotten their sums right on the ticket.

Have I missed anything?

I'm also curious, would a legitimate ticket have the words "Bleachers Admission"?

A very quick Google Images search for 1923 World Series ticket would show that the colour of the ticket it way off as well as the colour of the writing on the ticket. There is a lot more red print than black print with a real ticket. The watermark is more a print pattern than a watermark from looking at my old tickets. My impression (perhaps errantly) is that watermarks are more random but these print patterns are regular.

Bleachers Admission is one of the normal variations of a 1923 ticket.

The corners are SHARP in the eBay ticket and with absolutely no wear; this is impossible to be almost 100 years old. Yes, there should be perforation at the end which can either be a reprint or a cut. Reprint in this case.

The print quality is poor, but the math is ok. The numbers are just unclear unlike a real ticket from the very poor quality printing.

Overall great job at evaluating this!! Clearly someone did not when they wasted hundreds of dollars. I messaged the seller when the auction want up that it was fake and he did not make any amendments to the listing to indicate that this is a reprint. Not so cool in my books.

[Shoeless Moe]

Private hidden bidders is always a bad sign too

[UKCardGuy]

Thanks for the reply. That's really helpful.

[chalupacollects]

Wow! Looks like it was justed printed...like yesterday! smh...

[bigfanNY]

Seller claims it came from the estate of A New York Sports Writer. Sad and is another reason why it is harder and harder to sell raw ungraded items. But there are just so many crooks looking to steal from collectors.

[Leon]

AS somewhat of a novice at tickets thanks for sharing the info guys...

[ballparks]

Originally Posted by Leon

AS somewhat of a novice at tickets thanks for sharing the info guys...

Anytime! I am trying to put together a proper World Series ticket price guide and information book about the actual tickets. I find that even with the grading companies, that they do not know as much about this stuff as you would expect from an 'expert'. There are a few WS ticket collectors around the country that are really knowledgeable on things as well.