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Old 02-21-2023, 03:13 PM
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Default PSA Crossovers from GAI

Anyone have any personal experience crossing GAI cards with PSA? Do they usually pass with just a lower grade or are a high % rejected? If passed at lower grade, how many grades lower?

I am referring to the cards graded by GAI within the first year or so of their existence in their early holders, not the ones graded near the end when I know they were very suspect.

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Old 02-21-2023, 04:36 PM
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I've only done this once-- a T206 AB Hummel. It went from a GAI 5.5 to a PSA 4.5, and I was very happy with that result.
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Old 02-21-2023, 06:19 PM
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At this point, 20 years after early GAI, and in a really tight grading phase anyhow, the atmospherics may not be good. You may be better off cracking out and submitting raw.
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0-2 with GAI. Both first graded and both were likely trimmed so PSA didn't grade them.
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Default GAI Crossover

I decided to crack my GAI graded cards out of the cases and then submitted to PSA for grading. All came back with a numerical grade that was close to the GAI grade given years before.

53 Topps Paige was GAI 3.5 became PSA 3
55 Topps Mays was GAI 3 became PSA 3
55 Bowman Aaron GAI 4 became PSA 3
58 Topps Clemente GAI 4 became PSA 3

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Thanks to all for the info. Any other examples are appreciated.
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I had a GAI 4 1933 Goudey Mel Ott 127 and it graded an SGC 4 after I snapped it out
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When I bought this is was graded GAI 1.5. It crossed to this PSA 1.IMG_1526.jpg

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Default GAI to SGC

GAI to SGC if this helps...

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A few years ago I cracked out several early GAI cards from the 1950's and 60's and sent them to PSA. All came back within a grade (+ or -) of the GAI grade. Cards graded in the early days of GAI were fine, for the most part, but the later GAI graded cards, not so much.
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I decided to crack my GAI graded cards out of the cases and then submitted to PSA for grading. All came back with a numerical grade that was close to the GAI grade given years before.

53 Topps Paige was GAI 3.5 became PSA 3
55 Topps Mays was GAI 3 became PSA 3
55 Bowman Aaron GAI 4 became PSA 3
58 Topps Clemente GAI 4 became PSA 3

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Did you do this recently or was it a while back? Thanks! Jeff
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Def recommend cracking out and submitting.
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Old 02-22-2023, 08:43 AM
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Default I Wrote About This in 2020

I wrote about this exact experience two years ago in one of my columns. You can go to www.markearzoumanian.com. Then click on "Love of the Hobby" and when you scroll through the columns you will find one that covers this subject from November 2020. It's called: Converting GAIs to PSAs: Lessons Learned.
Yes, I know I am biased BUT I think it is worth reading! Take care and glad to share. Peace.
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Old 02-22-2023, 10:27 AM
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I cracked and submitted an early graded GAI T206 McGraw. It was a GAI 6.5 and got a PSA 5.5. I was happy with that. I also have a number of T206 1st graded which I have not submitted yet. I believe they are likely trimmed.
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You will consistently find that cards cracked out and submitted to PSA are fine and will grade very similarly. At worst, just a number grade or two less than with GAI, since PSA has become stricter as of late.

Cards submitted still in their GAI Holders will not fare so well, as PSA's bias knows no limits. Easy lesson to be learned here... crack them out if you feel the need to submit to PSA.
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Old 02-22-2023, 12:38 PM
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I agree with the crack them comment.
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Default Agreed - crack'em if you're gonna

I also cracked several T207s in GAI (early grading) and submitted to SGC, but this was ~ 8-10 years ago. Early GAI cards crossed:

2 - no change
2 - changed
1- down: GAI 4 -> SGC 40 (Fisher Blue)
1 - up: GAI 4 - > SGC 60 (Works)

My more recent experiences (4 yrs ago) were two GAI 7's (recently graded) that were also cracked and submitted and came back SGC A.

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