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Shouldn't it have been the other way around, a virus emerges and then a vaccine is developed? Sounds kinda fishy, no? |
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its also downplaying how Biden explained the vaccine, words matter such as peaceful protests or dont say gay bill, if you use the word vaccine you live and die by it..if not use a different word.. |
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/why-...-variants.html I guess that bad news is...they dont work as well as a "vaccine" Cant say any of the ones people took as children didnt "work" In fact, when we had a little scare of measles due to REAL "anti-vaxxers" like the Hasid, I spoke to my sons pediatrician. He reccomend a measles booster for my son, since "we really dont know how long the vaccine lasts for, but we are pretty sure it (MMR) is until adulthood and possibly life" Studies outside of the good ole USA are showing possibly 2 months, and maybe no reduction in risk to chronically ill. Not yet peer reviewed Now this is the Bivalent vaccine, 2 strains in one. In Finnish register-based cohort analyses, we compared the risk of severe COVID-19 outcomes among those who received bivalent vaccination (exposed) between 1 September 2022 and 31 January 2023 to those who did not (unexposed). Among elderly aged 65–120 years, bivalent vaccination reduced the risk of hospitalisation and death due to COVID-19. Among the elderly the hazard ratios comparing exposed and unexposed ranged from 0.36 to 0.43 during the first 14–30 days since bivalent vaccination but signs of waning were observed as soon as two months after vaccination. Among the chronically ill aged 18–64 years bivalent vaccination did not reduce the risk of severe COVID-19 outcomes. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....02.23286561v1
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At the time they announced they were focusing on the "less lucrative" vaccine market. Turned out being quite the boon for their shareholders. |
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The CEO of Moderna Stephane Bancel admits that he knew in 2019 that his company would make big money because there would be a pandemic and they had already manufactured the ‘vaccine’ in 2019 before the pandemic.https://twitter.com/ABridgen/status/...Czkc__2qktAAAA Quote:
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Talk about a bridge to crazy town. I hope you 2 can at least hold each others hands while crossing it. America' COVID Response Was Based on Lies https://www.newsweek.com/america-cov...pinion-1785177 https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/...DR0cqm-6ktAAAA ‘Cover-ups Have to End’: Senator Ron Johnson Calls for Investigation into COVID-19 Origins and Accountability for Anthony Fauci “Cover-ups have to end. The American public deserves the truth. The world deserves the truth on this.” https://twitter.com/UngaTheGreat/sta...C9idH--aQtAAAA How Fauci Fooled America https://www.newsweek.com/how-fauci-f...pinion-1643839 Now that it is clear to everyone with eyes to see that Fauci organized a cover up to squash the lab leak hypothesis, here's a reminder that he tried to fool the public on the science of lockdown and covid mitigation too. https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/...Cxnf7b66gtAAAA
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Gee, I wonder why, of all the years Fauci could have retired, why he chose the very end of last year?
Nah, that's just a coincidence. "You use Lockdowns to get people vaccinated" Fauci Explained it all...a long time ago. They had nothing to do with anything else...You know....the lockdowns he claimed he did not call for that Trump, King of All Lockdowns, Decreed be Imposed on America...this is how a real Journalist would have responded to Fauci on any Policy he wanted to be implemented...I found the One Time Fauci told the Truth https://twitter.com/DavidCWillisUSA/...92456264826881
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If it is crazy town to suggest it is possible that Fauci lied (Logically there are two options, he was wrong and did not know he was wrong or he lied, those are the two possibilities), we prefer to believe he was ignorant and did not know? Doesn't that undermine the entire argument?
If it is stupid not to believe X because Y said X was so, but then it turns out Y didn't know and was making false claims and X was indeed false (take your pick on the specific issue here, vaccines stop transmission, the vaccines are actual true vaccines, the lab leak is a right wing conspiracy lie, masks are not effective and you don't need to go get them [February-March 2020], masks are very effective [April 2020]), how can we rationally argue that the original sequence makes any sense and keep using it? When Y was wrong about A, B, C, D, and E, whether intentional or unintentional, how can we hold T, U, V, W, and Z to be true because Y said so? Should that not be a clue that perhaps a conclusion determined by the speaker isn't really arriving at truth? |
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I don't think I agree on most of the conspiracies, but there does appear to be significant evidence that the lab leak theory was suppressed in an organized manner by the state when they should have known or did know there was reason to it and serious investigation was merited, at the least. |
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So now all the anti lab leak propaganda can be traced back to Tony Fauchi. In normal times the population would have had a healthy level of doubt towards big Government and big Pharma but with a raging case of TDS infecting half the population all bets were off. https://youtu.be/FbG5bKWgs7E
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They used Ecohealth as a way of indirectly funding Wuhan and this is how fauci thought he could get away with it and why he lied to congress. The whistle blower, (Andrew Huff, if I recall correctly?) also stated they are aligned with the CIA. I'll see if I can dig it up tomorrow. If true, I think some heads are going to roll, and rightfully so.
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also whats americas narrative on how the russian pipleline in the ocean was destroyed?> trusting the govt is important to democracy Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 03-08-2023 at 07:26 AM. |
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no really lets more deep dive into this important clemente book issue because after all its in death santis state....lets dig deep as its unamerican about how freedom of thought on this book si not allowed......not allowing any alternative to the wet market theory..no big deal... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 03-08-2023 at 07:28 AM. |
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At this point, when the establishment scoffs at something challenging the official story by calling it a conspiracy theory your ears should perk up and take notice, not dismiss it. Discerning the truth has always been difficult, but now more than ever, it is a vital skill. |
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I think irv may have found his people here at Net54. Two peas in a pod.
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Oops, poor Tony. Looks like he's going down.
I hope his admirers are going to be OK? Even those at the CDC who didn't agree with the narrative were silenced and shunned. Just how stupid could these Democratic morons be thinking none of this would get out. MTG & Fmr. CDC Dir. Redfield CDC director: “Concocting a single narrative is the antithesis of science.” For years we allowed science to be manipulated by interests and politics. Further we went on to shame, divide and discriminate those that stood up and questioned the irrationality of a single scientific narrative. It will take time to hold people accountable and it will take time to heal, but we will come out of this stronger. https://twitter.com/forevaeva79/stat...20884261736448 https://twitter.com/CartlandDavid/st...20884261736448 https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/sta...C9yb7_sastAAAA Former CDC Director Redfield: "Gain of function probably caused the greatest pandemic our world has seen" https://twitter.com/davidzweig/statu...Cz6bKFqKstAAAA Unbelievable. The biggest scam ever bestowed on mankind.
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Best not to listen to this one below. I know in your fragility, it might just send you right over the edge. Dr. Robert Redfield, the former CDC Director, believes that US taxpayer money from NIH, State Department, USAID, and DOD funded the creation of SARS-CoV-2: "They wanted a single narrative, and I had a different point of view... Science has debate, and they squashed any debate... I think it's an inaccurate paper that was part of a narrative that they were creating... I think there's no doubt that NIH was funding gain of function research." https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/...DSmbi0qastAAAA Curious, has democratic underground (better known as Duh-underground) told you what to think about all this yet, Mr. just left of center?
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However Trump never forced the vaccine on anyone, i do remember they claimed would be a miracle for a vaccine to be made so fast and called trump crazy for that. I never said against the vaccine, i am against not being able to sue for it if you get sick if take it now or losing your job and all the other things that were not granted to people without taking vaccine for the most part especially the ones that had natural immunity. I am for all medicines including vaccines.. again your classic spin .. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 03-08-2023 at 02:37 PM. |
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just because there is an argument one can make on both sides doesnt mean they are the same in value If you got to argue dominonn machines and space lasers, i dont see a huge reliance on that that impacted 100s of millions of people like natural immunity and the like....you are really reaching, i can bring up tons of crazy stuff on the other side.. but for some reason the capital riots not mostly peaceful it appears but the summer riots were mostly peaceful.... Tucker cherry picked video but jan 6 panel did not cherry pick .i believe both cherry picked .. but the narrative will not be that and thats as crazy as the space lasers.. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 03-08-2023 at 02:45 PM. |
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Many folks just can't handle the truth, after being force-fed lies for decades by the MSM on a daily basis. They will never accept they were duped.
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Eventually, when no WMDs were found and the war was just chewing up humans in surge after surge with no end in sight, it became obvious that we had been tricked and the wars in the middle east had been a terrible decision. I was duped. Ever since, I have been much more skeptical. |
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Yes, my role model was the guy in the viking hat. Call me Qanon "Sherman" Since people are all the same. Either the believer or they dont believe the covid narrative. No middle ground. they are all trumpers, pro life, bible/gun toting, rednecks. Now where's that tin foil hat
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Poor, Carter.
"The scientific community is very afraid to speak up on political issues because govt grants are handed out through "peer review committees" so you don't want to say anything negative or political or else you won't get your grants so therefore they, the peer reviewers, can't be relied on to tell the truth" Mr. Wade. The first guy. https://youtu.be/WJF0fb8moyE
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Can you agree less and less "voices" are heard when mainstream media is concentrated in the hands of a few?
I think the vaccine is a choice, and I think anyone who wasnt high risk, or in an environment where they were around 100s of people, could make their own decision. I don't agree with people being "forced" to take it. I cant see how if someone took it, how could they still get infected. Kind of like the old motto "do what you want in your house, but dont let it effect me, or ask me to pay for it. We have now pivoted to a new normal in unprecedented times where the vaccine will not protect you. So how on Gods green earth would it matter of anyone took the vax or not? Dont take it "risk death" Take it "symptoms are less" Roll that dice! I personally believe we have a population problem and mother nature isnt doing her damndest to reduce it . Only the hubris of a human would think they can defeat her. Myself, I start at home. I do small things and I present my lifestyle to others, if they ask, as minimalistic to do our part to help reduce our footprint. I think the garbage alone from PPE, vials, syringes, etc are going to have a lasting impact on the environment. Funny, most of it was made in China. 10% to the big guy!
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But as a general policy, I do think there should be a coordinated response to pandemics, and that doing nothing would have been a mistake. And it is hard to deny that the shutdown was a huge win for the environment. Less transportation and general human activity was a real break for planet earth. |
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Power and authority can be wielded for good or evil. Unfortunately, at this point in our Republic, those with power and authority are not doing what is best for the citizens of this nation, so of course they want to make their activities as opaque as possible. |
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Seems like a half-hearted defense of what happened. Do you condemn those that stormed the Capitol? I doubt it.
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Walk around the Capitol in a viking suit or sit in Pelosi's chair and go to prison for 3+ years, burn down someones lifelong business in Kenosha or a police station in Seattle and get bailed out immediately by a Hollywood multimillionaire and then have all charges dropped by a woke DA.
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The ones who pepper sprayed and assaulted cops and vandalized and damaged government property? Absolutely. The ones who didn’t do that but were given ridiculously long sentences because they pissed off the elites and are going to be made examples of for everyone else to get in line? No. Do you condemn the thugs who burned down buildings, looted, assaulted innocent bystanders, threw rocks and Molotov cocktails at cops all under the excuse of “injustice to unarmed Black men by racist white cops”? I doubt it.
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The last time I checked, this was the covid thread. If you want to start another thread about the B.S., nothing but fake Democratic theatre insurrection, then go right ahead. If you're having trouble or don't know how to go about it, just ask. In the meantime, you have anything to say about Fauci and what has now come to light how he funded GOF and actually started this whole pandemic? Of course you don't, because doing so would be admitting you were easily duped into believing all the lies you were spewed about covid and the vaccines now wouldn't it? Hey, look over there everyone! It's a climate crisis. Be afraid, be very afraid!!!! Sheep gonna sheep...
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