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is the back from a folding chair. Doesn't make it any less nice - just different.
Yes that is my understanding. Or a bench maybe. Itís Double sided. I have had it for years, long before I started collecting prewar.
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Had a few neat things from the later brand in the past - that is way cool... It's the ancillary items to my core collections that bring it all together.
Thanks Henry,

I'm definitely of like mind that items like this, related to the cards that I collect, add to the enjoyment of collecting the cards themselves.
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Hey Turner,

Love the Piedmont chair and sign, thanks for sharing them.

I've seen a couple of those chairs over the years in antique stores when visiting my grandmother down in North Carolina but never one in as nice of a condition as yours.
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Not "Tobacco, Candy, Gum, or Bakery" adv....but, interesting 19th Century stuff, nevertheless.





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Didn't even realize this when I posed the Croft & Wilbur Liberty Bell from the 1876 Worlds Fair/Centennial Exposition in Philadelphia but I have another Worlds Fair advertising piece related to the manufacturers of our beloved baseball cards.

Here is a Plows Candy souvenir postcard from the 1904 Worlds Fair in Saint Louis where they were located.
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I was doing some research an came back across this incredible thread. I figure it's worth a bump.

I'm surprised to _not_ see any of the original Sporting Life ads featuring T206. Does anyone here have one (or more) of them?
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Prior to WWII, the BOWMAN Gum Co. advertised their Sportscards by their "PLAY BALL" Trademark. When BOWMAN introduced their 1st BB card set
after WWII, they continued the "PLAY BALL" Trademark on their wax-pack wrapper.
Stay tuned for 1949 - 1953 issues.


1948 Bowman 1-cent wrapper

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The printing of the 1948 BOWMAN set is very interesting. The printers took their original 36-card production sheet and produced a 48-card set from it.
In their 1st press runs, they printed cards #1 - 36. For their 2nd press runs, they modified their printing plates by replacing 12 cards in the first group
of 36 with cards #37 - 48.

The 36-card uncut sheet displayed here represents the 2nd print run. Cards #37 - 48 are interspersed among the lower number cards. Therefore, this
process created Double-Prints of 24 low numbers....Single-Prints of 12 low numbers....and, another set of Single-Prints of the 12 high numbers.


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In 1949, BOWMAN introduced their BOWMAN BASEBALL BUBBLE GUM cards.

Ö..Ö...... extremely rare 1949 PCL wrapper .................................................. ................... regular 5-cent 1949 wrapper

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Complete 4th series uncut 36-card sheet [this series (cards #109 - 144) were issued in the Summer of 1949]




In the Spring of 1950, we anxiously awaited the BOWMAN cards. We were not disappointed. Instead we were thrilled to see the very colorful BOWMAN cards.
In the 1st series (cards # 1 - 72) we found Yogi Berra, Bob Feller, Robin Roberts, Pee Wee Reese, Warren Spahn, and Jackie Robinson. In the following series,
I was really excited to get a Ted Williams.





3rd Series uncut sheet (36 cards)





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1951 BOWMAN 24-count Wax-pack box (this box is actually 3-dimensional. I scanned it in 2 dimensional form in order to completely display it here).
BOWMAN repeated many of the images from their 1950 set, added names on the front of the cards, and printed a tremendous number of these cards.
Note that they advertised "340 major league players"....however, they printed 324 cards in this set.




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More good stuff Ted. I really like the variety of your point of sale items and how they tie into your card collection.

I hadn't listed these in this thread yet. A couple extremely large original OBAK wooden shipping crates. Grand kids included in the shot to show just how large these items are.




I'll more than likely have a custom lid made for them which will be laid on top of the crates so that they can be used as additional display tables where other related OBAK advertising such as these can be displayed along with them.



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More good stuff Ted. I really like the variety of your point of sale items and how they tie into your card collection.

I hadn't listed these in this thread yet. A couple extremely large original OBAK wooden shipping crates. Grand kids included in the shot to show just how large these items are.




I'll more than likely have a custom lid made for them which will be laid on top of the crates so that they can be used as additional display tables where other related OBAK advertising such as these can be displayed along with them.




Hi Tony

Great OBAK stuff....and your Granddaughters accent the picture beautifully.

Thanks for the kind words, I like the way you framed them.


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1952 BOWMAN Football wrapper....note the label on the banner: "GIANT SIZE". In order to compete with the very popular larger size 1952 Topps BB cards,
BOWMAN re-sized their regular set of 1952 FB cards. Then re-issued these larger size cards in the Fall/Winter of 1952.
Shown here is a very rare 32-card uncut sheet of the (1st series) BOWMAN "GIANT SIZE" cards.









1953 BOWMAN Kodakchrome color BB cards and wrapper.

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hope you will be doing some conservation/restoration on the banner. It deserves it. I dropped out around 3000.00. Great item.

edited to add I'm still looking for something to initiate a trade for that virginia brights mirror piece :-)

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TedZan - interesting....same exact offer on my 1888 Buffords Trade Card. Must be part of the same printing.
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Well, by no means is this Tobacco, Candy, Gum, or Bread.... it's an "etc." advertisement piece







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Cleaning out old thumb drives and found this picture of a Salada store display. Don't remember where I got the picture or if it has already been posted, but I love pictures of these old displays (like the Woolworth Topps display).
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I would prefer to have a T215 BB card with a "PIRATE" back, but until then I'll settle for this one as a type card.


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Pre-WWII UNION LEADER Tobacco Tin (circa 1920's - 1930's)

P. Lorillard Co. brand produced at Factory #6, 1st District, Middletown, Ohio.







Post-WWII UNION LEADER Tobacco Tin (Richmond, Virginia circa 1950's - 1960's)





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Not advertising per se, but here is whatís left of an embossed side panel to a 1912-22 Cracker Jack shipping carton.
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Scored this sweet Helmar Poster. Listing said it was Annie Oakley but I dont think it is. regardless looks nice on the wall. does anyone know if a paper restorer can clean up the water stains?

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Circa 1889......Games and Sports Series (N165)










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Cliff - yes those stains can be dealt with. It is NOT Annie Oakley. I ALMOST tracked down who it was at some point and then LOST THE HANDLE on it - she was I believe famous to some degree tied to the Old West. I have a die-cut porcelain sign with her image.

Bob - I'm curious. Could you show the BOTTOM of the Home Run tin (and any other writing that might be on the sides)???? Never seen that before.
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Great poster! I don't think I've ever seen that one before.
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Mantle and Maris Life Magazine (Canada)
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Picked this up a month or two ago. Can't find another one like it anywhere.
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And the "genius" Manager who won 5 consecutive World Series Championships (1949 - 1953).



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Iíve posted this before in another thread and it may not exactly fit the intention of this thread, but what the hell. Here it is again.

Itís whatís left of an embossed side panel to a shipping carton used to ship Cracker Jacks. I have dated it to between 1912 and 1922 based upon the writing content, so right in the timeframe for the 1914-15 CJ issues. The piece measures about 16x20.

I put it in a frame for display purposes.
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Really happy to have these. Iíd say this is a fairly tough grouping.
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An absolutely amazing run Jon !, all five considered significant John W. Carroll rarities. A real treat to see together.

I'm going to derail the thread a bit, I ask for your forgiveness. I believe the chronological order for the LJ packs would be middle pack first, left pack second, right pack last based on several clues outside of the pack fronts. Would be greatly helped if we could find a legible tax stamp cancel on some of these packs but those have yet to be found. Believe all three designs were used for card distribution (1887-1890+), but the 1887 issues (baseball and others) were likely the earliest middle pack, possibly also the left pack.

Jon, do I recall correctly that the left pack is live, was unopened, and contained an N366 card (Language of Flowers) which we know debuted in May 1888 and ran for a couple months. So, the middle pack's use certainly included mid-1888, could have first appeared earlier.

I would greatly appreciate any leads on a copy of the left pack
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Not sure if this is previously known information on the Lone Jacks or not.

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An absolutely amazing run Jon !, all five considered significant John W. Carroll rarities. A real treat to see together.

I'm going to derail the thread a bit, I ask for your forgiveness. I believe the chronological order for the LJ packs would be middle pack first, left pack second, right pack last based on several clues outside of the pack fronts. Would be greatly helped if we could find a legible tax stamp cancel on some of these packs but those have yet to be found. Believe all three designs were used for card distribution (1887-1890+), but the 1887 issues (baseball and others) were likely the earliest middle pack, possibly also the left pack.

Jon, do I recall correctly that the left pack is live, was unopened, and contained an N366 card (Language of Flowers) which we know debuted in May 1888 and ran for a couple months. So, the middle pack's use certainly included mid-1888, could have first appeared earlier.

I would greatly appreciate any leads on a copy of the left pack

Thanks for the kind words Joe. And yes, I actually didnít mean to place them in order of issue (and your research which you shared with me seems spot on). You are correct that the left pack was full/unopened with a N366 (albeit with some condition deterioration over time unfortunately). Still working on it for you - my letters have gone unanswered thus far!
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Pat, I have accumulated many newspaper clips on Lone Jack but not that one. Can you share source and date? I have put a timeline together that shows Isaac Freidenwald from Baltimore, MD produced boxes (1887) followed by Munson & Co. in New Haven, CT (1888) and thus very interested in your source.


Jon, I greatly appreciate your attempt to locate a copy we know is out there, my comment was aimed at others on Net54 who may have or know where that or another example resides.
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Sure Joe, Shepherdstown Register (Shepherdstown, West Virginia) December 2 1887.
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Wow!, very cool, so there is likely a variant we have yet to lay our eyes on (assuming the contract was executed). The cigarette box manufacturer for John Carroll appears to be as follows:

1887-1890+
1) Isaac Friedenwald (Baltimore, MD) 1887, excluding perhaps the last couple weeks of December
- Boxes known in hobby (only one variant)
2) George B. White (Winchester, VA) from Dec. 1887 to early/mid 1888
- Box not studied, certainly would have unique slide, likely also unique shell
3) Munson & Co. (New Haven, CT) early/mid 1888+
- Two distinct variants

The new George B. White box production run is likley measured in months, pretty rare, even if they were making 5,000 boxes per week as stated. Also possible that the manufacturers overlapped, both under contract at same time.

Thank you Pat for a share that us pack collectors find interesting.

Jon, Ruby was introduced about the same time George B. White produced boxes (Nov 1887 vs Dec. 1887) . . . I think I recall your Ruby being from Munson but might be worth a second check. Would be neat to locate a George B. White box. It is unusual for a cigarette manufacturer to jump cigarette box suppliers so frequently. I'm also surprised John Carroll never linked up with the Whiting box company.
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Not to derail the thread however, I live in Durham NC and in the Tobacco building they have these displays
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This would fall into the "etc" of this thread's topic. I was looking for a box to keep my mid-teens basball cards in, and ran across this sales display box for holding Boston Garters. (there was an obscure card set, evidently baseball cards were packed with the garters)



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Not to derail the thread however, I live in Durham NC and in the Tobacco building they have these displays
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The first cabinet of cigarette packs/labels seems to be newer (20th century) but the 2nd display has some early smoking tobacco labels. Do you by chance have a close up of the "Canvas Backs" label? Is there more on display than these two cabinets? Thanks for the share!
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Hello Bob,

The first cabinet of cigarette packs/labels seems to be newer (20th century) but the 2nd display has some early smoking tobacco labels. Do you by chance have a close up of the "Canvas Backs" label? Is there more on display than these two cabinets? Thanks for the share!
If I ever go back to the building, I will see, this is all I have for now
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Wow!, very cool, so there is likely a variant we have yet to lay our eyes on (assuming the contract was executed). The cigarette box manufacturer for John Carroll appears to be as follows:

1887-1890+
1) Isaac Friedenwald (Baltimore, MD) 1887, excluding perhaps the last couple weeks of December
- Boxes known in hobby (only one variant)
2) George B. White (Winchester, VA) from Dec. 1887 to early/mid 1888
- Box not studied, certainly would have unique slide, likely also unique shell
3) Munson & Co. (New Haven, CT) early/mid 1888+
- Two distinct variants

The new George B. White box production run is likley measured in months, pretty rare, even if they were making 5,000 boxes per week as stated. Also possible that the manufacturers overlapped, both under contract at same time.

Thank you Pat for a share that us pack collectors find interesting.

Jon, Ruby was introduced about the same time George B. White produced boxes (Nov 1887 vs Dec. 1887) . . . I think I recall your Ruby being from Munson but might be worth a second check. Would be neat to locate a George B. White box. It is unusual for a cigarette manufacturer to jump cigarette box suppliers so frequently. I'm also surprised John Carroll never linked up with the Whiting box company.
For everyoneís benefit, here they are.
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Jon, do you know what year Obak cigarettes originated? I know the T212-1's have a 1909 date but I can't find anything on Obak cigarettes prior to late February 1910.
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