Press photo of Ruth from 1918 season

[4scuda]

I recently bid on this “vintage” Ruth press photo. I don’t know much about photos , but this one did not seem to have the same finish as an original that sold at one of the auction houses, I think REA. I have the original newspaper folio. I think the photo settled at $400. Just curious if that was a good price and what type it is?

[Lucas00]

This photo is almost always a type 4 or later type 2 (40s/50s). I'm going to wager yours is a type 4 (the clarity is a bit lacking to me). But you would need to see the back to be sure.

If it has a brown brothers stamp and is a type 1 you just made $3500.

If it's a type 3 it's probably over $2000 imo. However type 3s this early are not really a thing as it pre dates wire technology being widely used.

If it's a type 2 from around the 40s-50s you probably just made $1500+

Likely the most common photo of Babe in a red sox uniform.

I'm using Rmy for sales data. I'm sure Rhys would have even more expertise on it.

[doug.goodman]

Ruth's second m114, which I believe was released between Nov 1919 and July 1920, used that photo. There are four variations that I am aware of, two were credited to International Newsreel (including the initial printing, I think), and two were credited to Conlon.

[NiceDocter]

Here it is but closer up!!


https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAdAAAAABCUAw

So you have the Honey Boy Ruth photo!! Good job!!! Rocky

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

If it has a brown brothers stamp and is a type 1 you just made $3500.

Think you're missing a zero.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by Bicem

Think you're missing a zero.

Yea probably am Actually, 2018 Sale
https://rmyauctions.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=36287

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

Yea probably am Actually, 2018 Sale
https://rmyauctions.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=36287

Photo and early Ruth market has changed a little

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by Bicem

Photo and early Ruth market has changed a little

That link is not a type 1. If a type 1 international, two zeros are missing in todays market.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

That link is not a type 1. If a type 1 international, two zeros are missing in todays market.

I'm curious what your thoughts on its type is. Also why would you prefer an international stamp when its a Brown brothers photo? To me that would be a downgrade, even if they were both type 1.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

That link is not a type 1. If a type 1 international, two zeros are missing in todays market.

Ben knows Ruth Type 1's

[EddieP]

Very hard to date and authenticate Brown Bros. Photos.

[perezfan]

Same image was used as late as 1932, for Spalding's Official Baseball Guide. They must've done some creative and effective low-tech "photoshopping" back then to put The Babe in Yankee Pinstripes.

See link...

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Boo...AaAor3EALw_wcB

[D. Bergin]

Brown Brothers re-shot and cannibalized lots of other photographers photos.

They would also just put their stamps on the backs of other press organizations and photo studios photos.

Their stuff is generally always vintage of some sort, and pretty neat...but more of it is Type III or Type IV, then many people realize.

They were not exactly crack photographers themselves.....but were pretty good at re-shooting and re-cropping existing photos.

I don't think that should make any of it worthless, as some seem to think. Much of it is still period and pretty rare. We collect baseball cards of much more inferior quality and put huge premiums on them, despite them being, not much more then later generation printed photos and lithography.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by perezfan

They must've done some creative and effective low-tech "photoshopping" back then to put The Babe in Yankee Pinstripes

Yep, they just repainted the entire image...

But, based on the ear, I think it might actually be Joe Jackson,

[EddieP]

Yup, everyone knows that the ears are key to identifying people and it’s appearance never changes. Too bad this isn’t supported by science.

https://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/...wth-as-you-age

[4scuda]

I’ve kinda got lost in the thread. So what type is the photo I posted. It sounds like I let it go way to cheap as I only bid on it, didnt win it.

[D. Bergin]

Can you post a picture of the back of the mount board it’s on?