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I would also declare these as wrong: 1) Mechanical errors: this includes wrong set information, wrong card variant, wrong card number, wrong grade attached to card by accident or process failure, multiple cards put in wrong slabs at same time, spelling errors, etc. I believe just this category would easily exceed 1% of cards/coins submitted. It's around 3-5% on the hundreds of cards I submitted. 2) Cards that are marked or miscut that are not labeled with the appropriate "we never remove these MC or MK" qualifiers, even if you ask us to? 3) Cards that are MINSIZ but slabbed with a number grade anyways: See 1975 Topps Mini set collectors thread on CU/PSA board. 4) Cards that PSA could easily identify with an internet search but are unwilling to and return as N9: NO SPEC INFO. 5) Cards that are NOT MINSIZ or EOT but are returned ungraded or slabbed AUTHENTIC ALTERED anyways. 6) Hand Cut cards given number grades despite not following PSA's own rules that the borders must be present? You still want to tell me their failure rate is less than 1%? Watch some of the PSA reveals from Vintage Breaks and see how many times PSA slabs O-PEE-CHEE cards as Topps and Topps as O-Pee-Chees, even on easily distinguishable sets like 1971 OPC Baseball with the yellow-orange backs and different layout. They are awful at identifying modern card variants, even screwing up superfractors and labeling many hundred dollar variants as the base cards. If their error rate isn't closer to 10%, I'll eat my hat.
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John, you just read into my post wrong. to clarify... Mechanical meaning anything to do with a machine, device, computer, etc. not referring to "mech error" when PSA mislabels a card. Bad was referring to the cards on the new suspect list. Not in reference to under/over grades, mislabels or anything like that. My accuracy rate was only referring to those cards that are on or will be on the list compared to anything that is currently sitting soundly in a holder free of suspicion. Purple Label would not exist if I believed every card was accurately graded just in regard to the numerical grade. Hope that clears things up
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Why do you only seem to care about this one list? Why are you not worried about purging all the cards from all the known bad actors from the PSA Cert system? Does someone need to dot all the i's and cross all the t's before you'll believe that PSA is ridiculously awful at their job of identifying alterations and "isolated bad actors" that PSA has allowed to submit tainted (and possibly even non-tainted) cards for the past 20 years under their own names?
I get it; you're part of the group who has something to lose if PSA goes under or takes a gut-punch to the abdomen. I've got thousands of PSA graded cards, but I'd rather see with this dealt with from the top in a manner that restores trust to the marketplace. The hand-wringing and then forgetting is such a common pattern response to this issue that you can see the old guard believing that nothing will ever change, as long as we all get rich watching fraud happen. If that's true, we're all the perpetrators of fraud. Well, I'm not standing on the sidelines. I'm making a stand. But to keep trivializing the depth of this fraud is hysterical to me. We're not buying it.
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im right there with you john...but what does purging of all the altered cards mean? Destroy them? Try to permanently label them...give them a scarlet letter? I'd be good with either scenario...but it aint gonna happen!!!!!
Imagine if they were destroyed???? The pops would be dramatically affected in some cases! |
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What do you suggest within a reasonable scope that Purple Label can do in respect to the current issues we are facing? I have not officially queried the public with this exact question but it is coming soon.
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You, personally, should demand accountability from PSA and boycott them, and not purchase graded cards. That's what I'm doing. #sinceyouasked
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It's interesting to me that (and apologies if I have missed anyone) other than Al C. and Scott R., we haven't heard much if anything from the AHs and dealers who are members of this Board. As they are bulwarks of the industry it would be helpful to get their insight and perspective and guidance, but apparently they choose silence.
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Ok. Have fun on your crusade!
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Well, at least you're making a stand... ;-) As the old song goes, "You've got to stand for something... or you'll fall for anything. You've got to be your own man, not a puppet on a string."
Why even ask what you should do, when it's fairly obvious you're part of the "Graded Card Swamp"?
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