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Old 06-02-2019, 05:04 PM
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Probably the most poetic post I've seen here. Bravo.

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Old 06-02-2019, 06:39 PM
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Wow those guys on the PSA board are clueless. They've read about 3 total posts and not the 20+ threads on this scam and are defending PWCC... but when the place is moderated the way it's moderated, no surprise.
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Wow those guys on the PSA board are clueless. They've read about 3 total posts and not the 20+ threads on this scam and are defending PWCC... but when the place is moderated the way it's moderated, no surprise.
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Happens here all the time John. People intentionally don't inform themselves, then pontificate.
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I may be in the minority, but I hope Brent / PSA rebounds from this and criminal charges will be pressed on the card docs. People will be angry if this is the result because of the smoking gun from culpability, but I hope the hobby burns through this hot topic we are facing. punitive consequences will be defined and the maturity of our hobby’s use of tech/social media (thanks to our “super sleuths”) will act as a deterrent and make us stronger from this.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t disagree with the majority, but would be happy with realistic expectations.

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I may be in the minority, but I hope Brent / PSA rebounds from this and criminal charges will be pressed on the card docs. People will be angry if this is the result because of the smoking gun from culpability, but I hope the hobby burns through this hot topic we are facing. punitive consequences will be defined and the maturity of our hobby’s use of tech/social media (thanks to our “super sleuths”) will act as a deterrent and make us stronger from this.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t disagree with the majority, but would be happy with realistic expectations.
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Has he yet addressed the allegations that the PWCC ebay account was used to buy cards submitted by Moser?
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If I can find out the rotten egg at PSA, I can get this passed.
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Old 06-03-2019, 02:18 PM
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If I was PWCC, I would hire a public relations consultant stat! They are worth it for the situation.

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So whats the normal time period before we start to see what happened and how it happened. 2 years?
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Sotheby's restorer claims to work on baseball cards, shows altered 1933 Goudey Gehrig as repaired on Facebook:
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This is a thread (very old net54), I just came across, involving Beckett, PWCC and a re-backed t206 red Cobb Drum. Interesting in today's Context.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=90096
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Doctors will deny, prove it, it’s slabbed in a holder.

Auction Houses.....I didn’t know ?? Card was slabbed in a holder when was consigned to us.

PSA...brings no mention of it up....we are hiring graders and improving security measures along with taking pictures of all higher end cards submitted for grading. When you’re paying for a Opinion that’s all you get theirs is what it is....hard to be held accountable.

Outcomes from all this ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY OR PUNISHMENT FOR THOSE INVOLVED.

Card Trimmers and Doctors we all know who many of them are have Never been charged or found guilty of any crime.

People will still buy and submit to Newport Beach and SGC Hand over fist. People will still give their stuff to auction houses. Doctors will still be doing whatever they want....never been criminally prosecuted no consequence so why stop trying.

This cycle will continue to go on.....

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Doctors will deny, prove it, it’s slabbed in a holder.

Auction Houses.....I didn’t know ?? Card was slabbed in a holder when was consigned to us.

PSA...brings no mention of it up....we are hiring graders and improving security measures along with taking pictures of all higher end cards submitted for grading. When you’re paying for a Opinion that’s all you get theirs is what it is....hard to be held accountable.

Outcomes from all this ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY OR PUNISHMENT FOR THOSE INVOLVED.

Card Trimmers and Doctors we all know who many of them are have Never been charged or found guilty of any crime.

People will still buy and submit to Newport Beach and SGC Hans over fist. People will still give their stuff to auction houses. Doctors will still be doing whatever they want....never been criminally prosecuted no consequence so why stop trying.

This cycle will continue to go on.....
Wait, who's Hans?
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