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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: HalleyGator
As you guys and gals all know, I collect cards for HOF players only ... so it is always crucial for me to know who might get into the HOF BEFORE their cards get scarce and expensive. I learned my lesson on Bid McPhee. Uggh. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: HalleyGator
Sorry, but I am NOT limiting this to 19th century players only. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Andy Baran
But here are a few (in no particular order) that may be considered. I believe that all of these players meet the minimum year requirement to be eligible: |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Jay Miller
Andy--You left out the fellow I believe to be the most likely candidate--Dummy Hoy. I would also think that two possiblities are Stovey and Orr. I think it is a travesty that Orr and Browning are not in the HOF. They were two of the best hitters of their time but just happened to be in the AA. The first year they competed with NL stars (1890 in the PL) they finished one-two in batting. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Andy Baran
Jay, |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Andy Baran
Now I remember why I didn't place Orr on my list. When I looked him up, he played less than 10 professional seasons, which I believe would make him inelligible, unless he was voted in as a pioneer of the game. Is this correct? |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Jay Miller
Andy--I don't disagree with you. I just think that Hoy has decent stats and, possibly more importantly, a good story. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Jay Miller
Andy--I think you are right on Orr--he was one year short. However, if you say he batted zero for a tenth year I still think he should make the HOF. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Andy Baran
Hal, |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Brian Hodes
I hate to be a spoilsport but the honest answer is "Nobody" from the 19th Century. As I understand it the earliest player elgible is 1910's - 20's Pitcher Carl Mays (talk about an interesting story!). |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Adam J. Baxter
My list for 19th century players that I think should be inducted: |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Kevin Cummings
the most qualified "old time" players (regardless of era) by position not yet in the Hall of Fame: |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: runscott
19th Century - Glasscock. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: halleygator
Hey guys... |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Dan
How about letting me know your Betz cabinet arrived ok today? dan. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: John(z28jd)
No one mentioned Bobby Mathews yet? He had 297 wins! |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: John(z28jd)
Under current rules there wont be anyone elected from the 19th century too soon but if you look over Hall of Fame history youll see the election methods change basically daily,so to say they will stick with the current form of voting is a stretch. Eventually some of these players have to make it because theyre all all-stars from their day.I just think it will be a slow process |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Adam J. Baxter
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Adam J. Baxter
Bobby Matthews is a good choice. I wouldn't mind seeing Deacon White in the Hall too. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Kenny Cole
I tend to agree with Brian, at least to a point. I don't think a 19th Century ballplayer is going to be elected for quite some time. Actually, I have some doubt about 20th Century ballplayers being elected by the Veteran's Committee. The way they vote now just makes it too tough. After a few years of no one getting in, they'll revamp it though. No elections isn't good business for MLB or for the HOF. Consequently, they'll change the voting system after a few years of nothing. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
To some extent Creighton's story was pilfered by Bernard Malamud in the "The Natural." The truth of Creighton's career was that he was considered the greatest player in the nascent baseball leagues around New York city. Creighton was not only the best Pitcher he was also the best hitter. Creighton died at age 21 of internal injuries brought on by swinging bat and hitting a game winning hit. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Brian Hodes
I didn't mean to be anonymous. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Jimmy Leiderman
Ross Barnes was a great hitter, just compare his numbers to those from George Wright... |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Rhett
Lave Cross-can't believe nobody said this one before |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: TBob
Turkey Mike Donlin Giants |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Julie Vognat
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: jay behrens
Unless I missed it, I don't think anyone mentioned Decone Phillipe, the Ace of the great Pirates teams. Carl MAys would be there if not for the Chapman death. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: BROOKS
COME ON BOB THE ONLY HALL OF FAME ROSE BELONGS IN IS THE "WHINERS" HOF, HIS SON DOES A GOOD IMPRESSION OF HIM TOO. IF PETE EVER CRIES HIS WAY BACK IT SHOULD ONLY BE 70-80 YEARS AFTER JOE JACKSON AMD HAL CHASE ARE INDUCTED AS THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ACCORDED ANY MEDIA CAMPAIGNING . YOUR OTHER CHOICES WERE OKAY BUT I WILL STICK WITH |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Julie Vognar
That there are about 20 typos in my post (a few back), including the spelling of my own name, and the e-mail address under it. Well, I guess everyone knows about my typing by now, so all I can do is apologize--and try to do better. The typos are complicated by my inability to spell. That's the way you get to be an English teacher--you can't type, and you can't spell. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: John(z28jd)
Julie,everyone knows about your spelling so you dont have to apologize for it,we are used to it and im sure no one else is a perfect speller either. I do find it a little amusing as you pointed out that you indeed spelled your name wrong and got your email address wrong the first time,but also in your unnecessary apology you also got your email address wrong again. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: julie
AT and T puilled another switch--I think that's how it reads under my second post. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: julie
comma. It should be a period. |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Jeff O
Let's face it, gang, it hasn't been a "Hall of Fame" in a long, long time. It should change it's name to the "Hall of Very Good", or the "Hall of Better than Average". |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Julie Vognar
(I just thought how I kept typing my name and e-mail, like one of those ads on TV, where the guy keeps repeating the phone number. That's why the half a dirty joke. ) |
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Who's next in the HOF from the old days??
Posted By: Paul
I agree that many, many Veterans Committee selections were huge mistakes. I also agree that if you can't get in through the front door, that's a pretty good indicator that you don't belong. But what about Johnny Mize and Arky Vaughan? I think these were two truly outstanding players and the Hall would be a poorer place without them. I guess the bottom line is that it's impossible to design a perfect system. If you want to avoid embarrassing omissions, like Mize and Vaughan, you're going to get a whole bunch of Rixeys and Hafeys. And I'm not sure which of the two choices is worse. |
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