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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Josh K.
So, anyone care to guess what the F*&% happened to my bid on this auction. If you look at the bidding history, my winning bid of 171.09 was cancelled a second after the auction ended. The winning bidder (who has contacted me) informed me that he was outbid by me in the last seconds, but then, was notified that he had won b/c my bid was cancelled. The seller has not responded to my email to provide a reason for cancelling my bid. Has this ever happened to anyone? |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Daniel Bretta
Got a link? |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Josh K.
Sorry, link now provided above. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Daniel Bretta
Hmmm...I wonder if the seller was trying to cancel all the bids before the auction ended and just didn't get it done. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
I think he must have been trying to cancel the auction and the other guy's snipe somehow got through? |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Charlie O'Neal
Since bidders are not allowed to retract bids if the auction is under 12 hours that's really weird. Hopefully Something can be worked out between the seller and the bidders. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Josh K.
Charlie, I have never dealt with this seller before. In fact, I had a $99 bid placed on the card since the day it was listed (I did this to get rid of the BIN). I then set a snipe bid for significantly more. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
Maybe the guy read your analysis of Kyle's situation and decided he didn't want to deal with you. (Just kidding) |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Daniel Bretta
I can almost guarantee you that this guy was trying to cancel ALL the bids before the auction ended because he was having sellers remorse. He probably wasn't expecting a snipe. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Josh K.
Peter, thats funny - and dont think the thought didnt cross my mind |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Could you imagine having a program available that cancels snipe bids at the end of the auction... boy that would be worth something... |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Steve
That is very odd. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Josh K.
Seller will not respond. I actually thought that he ended the auction early and sold the card to the "winning bidder". But, then I noticed the timing of the cancellation. I also rec'd an email from the winner who lurks on the board and recognized my ebay id. He told me that my snipe topped his high bid and then got notice that he won b/c my bid was cancelled. He was actually concerned that I had cancelled the bid b/c I determined s/t was wrong with the card and didnt want to get scammed if that was the case. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Joann
Why would the seller want to sell it for less? B/c he didn't get the $99 bid cancelled in time? And seller's remorse in the last 10 seconds, or whatever, doesn't make sense to me. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Richard
Josh - the seller must know that you should not be buying any more cards. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Charles E. Moore
I notice that the minimum was $99.99. Your $99 should not have been accepted as it was .99 short. Though it seems illogical, I'd bet that the "computer" kicked you out when it reconciled the final bids. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Steve
Charles |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Josh K.
Thanks Steve |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Brad Green
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Josh K.
Ebay is ever so helpful. Here is the response that I received: |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Joann
Do you think it was 'okay' because at 1 second after the auction there was some presumption that the cancel was initiated while the auction was still live? I don't know the rules about cancelling bids during an auction, but imagine they are pretty liberal. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Does choosing ebay partners mean we (as a buyer) can cancel a bid after the auction is over? Isn't that called reneging? I always thought that placing a winning bid constitutes a contract between the buyer and seller. Well, maybe not in the ebay world. I suppose you could try to prove this out: |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: DJ
Nothing annoys me more than the standard reply. When I have had any issues in the past, I went straight to eBay Live. You get to actually talk to a human being who may or may not be able to help. It's helped in the past on a couple of issues regarding sales. This is an interesting topic and it sucks that this seller doesn't reply. IMO, silence usually means foul play. I'd give him a phone call if I were you. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Steve
I am a lil confused here as this action was taken after the auction ended. (or so it seems) Not saying this happened but...........say a card is 'worth' 1000 dollars and the top bid is 200.00. well I cancel the top bid and sell to my shill for 99.00. Therebye not losing the item. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Josh K.
Hey Steve, |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Jeff
I am probably wrong on this, but the seller probably thought if he cancelled your bid at the end he would not have to sell it. He didnt know that almost all old card collectors on ebay bid at the end of the auctions. Looks like he got burned, if that was the intent. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Steve
I was speaking in a hypothetical. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Brian Daniels
safe harbor......yet?? |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: Josh K.
I wrote ebay's dispute center. Got the response above. |
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Bid Cancelled after Winning - What Happened Here?
Posted By: andy becker
i have never had a corespondence with ebay that did not use two words....."concern and frustration". |
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