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What did I just watch? I am so confused! Goldin posted a video of pulling a t206 from a piedmont pack. I truly doubt the pack is legit at all. Why did Goldin do that???
https://youtu.be/ypsd0pgV4h0 |
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i believe this was a contrived display.
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It’s a guy who makes fake packs with fake cards posted by cardporn shared by goldin.
All in all, stupid. |
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oh.. i wasn't even know what was cardporn until now. |
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It seemed to me that the rice paper opened way too easy. It probably was opened before. I suspect a card was put in then the rice paper was pushed back in and not sealed.
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Let me preface all of this by stating the following:
I know very little about unopened tobacco packs. My observations, questions, and opinions are those of an amateur, as it pertains to this arena.
Based on the comments above, I'm highly suspicious. I do not believe the "pack" remained unopened continuously for 110+ years, as claimed by the “unopened T206 Piedmont pack" title.
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Well said! To me the two giveaways were (1) the tax stamp seem to be too small/narrow (2) the inside contain should be wrapped in foil paper and not plain paper. Also, if you pull a card, why would u push it back inside the pack to risk causing more surface damages? Don't they want a PSA10 t206 out of a pack even if it was just a common player. |
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Has ANYONE ever shown off a legitimate T206 unopened pack with a card in it?
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There is some guy here: https://anvilcard.com/products/sweet...k-replica-t206 making fakes, and that is about it, other than the scammers on eBay and other sites passing off fake cards as real. Surely, though, just out of the sheer numbers made originally, real, legitimate unopened packs containing cards must exist, somewhere...
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Also GAI used to grade some of these, but many are highly questionable as to if they could have a card inside due to factory numbers and numerous other issues. Here is an example - ![]() Also, some have been sold over the years like these REA examples - https://robertedwardauctions.com/auc...ain-t206-card/ https://robertedwardauctions.com/auc...206-t210-card/ But again note, these "could" have a card. As to knowing with any pack a "100% guarantee" of recieving a T206 and not either nothing or a non-sport, not really sure that is possible. A better internet genius than I can can make that call, lol.
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Here's what the INSIDE of an actual pack of ca. T206 Piedmont Smokes REALLY looks like. I didn't see any foil inside the pack in the video...
Just sayin'... image1.jpg image2.jpg |
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i would want to smoke whats inside.-..where the surgeon general warning, dont see one so its safe to smoke
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My first thought whenever I see an old tobacco tin or pack of cigarettes. Although I wouldn't want to try century-old tobacco, I've never stopped wondering what these brands tasted like.
In Canada in the mid-1990's, I was out in Saskatchewan in the middle of nowhere (I guess that goes without saying--it's North North Dakota!). You can imagine my astonishment to discover Sweet Caps still being sold in a gas station. To this day, I regret not buying a pack, but the similarity between the 1990's Canadian version and its historic American counterpart would likely have ended at the name. Last edited by BillyCoxDodgers3B; 12-02-2022 at 11:55 AM. |
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I don't trust Ken Goldin as far as I can throw him. Everything he does is in his own self-aggrandizing pursuit of fame, and there's something off-putting about him that I can't quite pinpoint. This, like everything he posts, is designed to get social media eyeballs, and I doubt it's legitimate.
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…and the Flintstones taught me the value of a good smoke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVRO6GAfvzA
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Ah ok, so anvilcard sells these fake packs and Goldin also "credited" the video was from anvilcard which mean that pack was "known to be" fake. I guess I got fooled by Goldin. Well done... ![]() https://anvilcard.com/collections/vi...us-cobb-mantle |
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A. Push the card back in after it was halfway out B. Use a blade to within a millimeter of hitting the card C. Cut through the tax stamp on the other side unnecessarily, after the other side was already opened D. Use a pack that's missing the foil within the box E. Fail to show the front of the card (which is the main thing people would care about) |
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![]() You confirmed what I was thinking - no confirmed unopened pack with a card in modern times. |
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The link says it's a fake in the first line..
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It doesn't look like any of these anvilcards have "reprint" on them anywhere. Just wondering if anyone has experience with these cards and how likely is it someone will try to sell these as the real thing?
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^^this^^
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Here are some real packs with real cards inside.
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And yes, some legit packs that are unopened and “may” have a card inside exist still. Here are a couple (2 on the bottom left).
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Pretty neat that you can see where the flap laid against the Lewis Jon.
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Is that you, Pat (Chan)? You sound just like him, if not. And since you have a bad phone number on file AND have been back to the forum and not answered my PM, you are gone.
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I was a bit myopic when writing this segment of my post. As perezfan wrote, who on earth would cut through the tax stamp on the other side unnecessarily?
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